I wonder how volatile SpaceX's stock will be given the usual imbroglio Twitter tends to generate under Musk. Talking to a friend and he said "the same as Tesla", but maybe now it's a little bit different since they (SpaceX and Twitter) are one and the same? I guess we'll find out.
>As a European, I find it very funny to see how nobody in the US is willing to address the elephant in the room called Mossad.
This is driving me up the wall. Look, I know part of this talk/accusation [about Mossad] is coming from Nazi/antisemitic circles, so people being hesitant to engage makes a bit of sense. But come on, it's not a stretch to consider. The idea that the US would let a Russian operation go unchecked like that is completely bonkers.
There's no shortage of evidence of a strong relationship there [0], [1].
What's missing is definitive proof, so far at least. I think you're conflating the two. Evidence and proof are different things - see [2] for a good example of this conflation used the other way.
Anyway, yeah, you can very seriously consider this based on the evidence already out there. Considering the stakes, it would be kinda silly not to imo.
> his girlfriend was the daughter of a Mossad agent
Some have speculated that he could have been; that doesn't make it true. Anyway, not everyone copies the career track of their ex-girlfriend's father.
> one of his best friends was Israel's lawyer
Dershowitz? He never even represented Israel. Even if he had, I'm not sure what it would have to do with Mossad.
> another of his best friends was a former Israeli prime minister
He was on friendly terms with a lot of politicians. By this logic, he must have been a spy for several different countries.
> a senior Israeli spy would stay at his house for weeks at a time
"Spy" is being used very loosely.
> a friend invited him to bring his girls to Israel
He was invited to lots of places. What does this have to do with spying again?
> he fled to Israel when he was charged with sex crimes against a minor
It's not fleeing to visit somewhere before returning for a trial.
> he was pictured wearing an IDF shirt
This is like suggesting a MAGA hat makes someone a CIA agent.
> he was funded by pro-Israel fanatics
Too vague to refute, and irrelevant anyway.
> he worked for the Rothschilds
This is just false.
> he donated to pro-Israel student groups
Meaning Hillel? I'm not sure what it was to do with Mossad, beyond just being a Jewish organization.
To see how absurd most of the Mossad spy arguments are, just replace Israel with the US. Most of the arguments get much stronger - Epstein was friendly with many American politicians, etc. By the same logic, Epstein was surely a spy for the CIA or other US intelligence.
Or substitute Epstein with some other wealthy, high-profile Jew. In most cases there are just as many Israeli connections, trips to Israel, donations to Jewish groups, etc.
Seems you spent a lot of time going through the example I used for conflating proof with evidence, and none referring to the evidence I referred to. Maybe try reading the comment again lol.
Or, don't bother, because it's pretty clear that you're not very familiar with the facts here.
Epstein: "As you probably know I represent the Rothschilds". Thousands of emails with Ariane discussing such.
You: "This is just false" - no counter evidence whatsoever.
> By the same logic, Epstein was surely a spy for the CIA or other US intelligence.
That's what all the evidence points to, yes. That he worked for both the US and Israel. Why else would Kash Patel and others have so blatantly lied all this time?
Either country had more than enough resources and info to have shut down such an operation - if they had wanted to. Instead, it looks a lot like they protected/are protecting him at every turn; sometimes by extreme means.
We know for a near-certain fact that there were compromising tapes on hundreds or thousands of powerful people. Where did they all go, in your beskepticled view?
None of this resembles what we normally call "evidence" at all. It's like accusing someone of being a Mossad spy because they're holding an iPhone, which relies on a bunch of Israeli IP.
> "As you probably know I represent the Rothschilds".
What would this have to do with Mossad anyway? It's not surprising that a Jew had some Jewish acquaintances. You probably have Jewish acquaintances too, does that make you a Mossad spy?
You didn't answer my questions either. Again how is a business relationship with a wealthy Jewish family evidence of being a Mossad spy?
But okay, I'll respond to yours -
> he [probably] worked for both the US and Israel. Why else would Kash Patel and others have so blatantly lied all this time?
No idea. That might be evidence of some relationship with the US, not of being a Mossad spy.
> We know for a near-certain fact that there were compromising tapes on hundreds or thousands of powerful people. Where did they all go?
No idea, but even if we assume there was a blackmail scheme (which isn't the only explanation of inappropriate recordings), there's still zero evidence of Mossad involvement.
> there's still zero evidence of Mossad involvement.
Please, please learn the difference between evidence and proof. There's a lot of evidence, from circumstantial to testimonial to an abundance of hearsay.
Not proof, no. Proof is what follows from investigation - which hasn't happened. Are you familiar with the concept of "the dog that didn't bark"?
> how is a business relationship with a wealthy Jewish family evidence of being a Mossad spy?
Never said it was.
You claimed "This is just false" when my source [2] claimed that he worked for the Rothschilds, and now have moved the goalposts because he said so himself and there's thousands of emails backing that up.
>I’m sure Musk is going to say this is about free speech in an attempt to gin up his supporters.
Way ahead of you, they already said that when the same French authority launched an investigation due to "[...] offences related to the platform, including the spreading of child abuse images and sexually explicit deepfakes, the denial of crimes against humanity and manipulation of an automated data processing system as part of an organised group.". This is just more fuel to the fire.
As for your last statement, Brazil also did something, two weeks ago: https://archive.is/jF2ZW [Brazil gives Musk's xAI 30 days to tackle fake sexualized content from Grok, Reuters]
The entire thing is a play. Musk should be a science fiction writer. He has that uncanny ability to create a statement that compresses 100+ years of industrial evolution into a few sentences.
>Factories on the Moon can take advantage of lunar resources to manufacture satellites and deploy them further into space.
I love how he goes from "the raw material is there" to "we will build high-tech supply chain to process them", just like that, magically.
You put it so succinctly and perfectly that I'll have to favorite your comment. Totally agree. The physical world has become little more than noise for people like Musk. I wonder whether the correction will be a slow market dip, a full collapse, or somehow whether he makes it out like a bandit. Baudrillard is, once again, uncomfortably accurate in his diagnosis.
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