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They are a private company they can largely sell or not sell they want. They aren’t saying they won’t build them because they are to effective they are saying they won’t build them because they aren’t safe.

Quoting statute:

> The President is hereby authorized (1) to require that performance under contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) which he deems necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense shall take priority over performance under any other contract or order, and, for the purpose of assuring such priority, to require acceptance and performance of such contracts or orders in preference to other contracts or orders by any person he finds to be capable of their performance, and (2) to allocate materials and facilities in such manner, upon such conditions, and to such extent as he shall deem necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense.


Sure, but the contract in place forbids these things. So the contract is literally a non-performer and cannot perform such orders in the way it is written. So, I personally struggle to see outside of taking over the supply chain how Anthropics contract forces them to do this

To be clear ….violations of their, repeatedly update, permit to paint cars. Something the website labels impossible.

Feel free to provide sources for the claims

He doesn’t need to refute it he just needs to offer an alternate claim.

The site provides no citations, no evidence, so there’s no need to defend the count argument or honestly even make it.

The sit isn’t just false, it is flat out disrespectful to all the workers, engineers, founders, and everyone else involved in the industries he says don’t exist that actually do exist. The site is basically “I think this is hard so no one else could possibly do it”.


Or the person writing this has?

Just because it’s in GitHub doesn’t mean it’s more credible than the stuff my mother posts on Facebook about mark zuckerberg not having permission to use her photos.


The site is wrong about the Fremont plant being exempted as detailed here:

https://dailykanban.com/2016/09/29/docs-reveal-teslas-produc...

(With things like…links to their permit applications, I.e., sources)


Neat, thanks!

As just a statement of bias…the guys at that site have a pretty clear distaste for Tesla. They are industry experts and that’s where their analysis comes from, but it’s palpable. I would call it evidence versus politically based but noting it. The difference in bias though is ther snark has citations to primary sources not just wild generic claims.

That's helpful context, too. Always happy when anyone goes crate-digging for citations. Thanks!

I confuses “it’s hard” with “it’s banned”

It’s…not even wrong it is detached from any effort at truth.


Without sources all of this is…suspicious at best.

They list playing and Cnc machining as banned and then only describe the chemicals used in playing.

There is a huge defense production industry in CA and an even larger machining industry that would be really surprised to hear that.

The largest manufacturer of machine tools in the US (Haas) is based in California.


which has been warped all out of any comprehensible reality. It hinges on the idea of 'voluntarily' turning over information. Much of what is now considered information voluntarily turned over isn't even information that people know exist much less that they are turning over much less doing so voluntarily.

It's not voluntary if you don't know about it.

Requiring someone pay for information by any common sense interpretation isn't voluntary.

The courts have lost their goddamn minds.


I didn’t, still don’t, but that’s a lost cause.

I’ll note that this video is way out of date…both in content and my skills as a speaker :P


Thanks for your presentation, watched ut several times over the years. If your presentation skills are better now hopefully you csn make a new one.

Thanks for the informative presentation!

thanks for the HN community - the video is how I ended up here and its one of the few social media-esque sites I bother visiting. Taught me a pile of things about coding and CS that weren't in my mechanical engineering degree.

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