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I gotta stop supporting this racist site. I will not pretend being actively discriminated against is ok.


I thought the same thing, but my guess is the author is from Europe. Maybe it's completely different there?


maybe the rise of internet "mob justice" is in part due to the masses losing faith in traditional forms of justice. Doesn't make it right or wrong, just a reflection.


Seem to me to be more a rise of "for the lulz" thinking.

I wonder how large a part of the mob could not care less about the cause as long as they get some (flimsy) justification for harassing.


I don't think it's about losing faith, so much as formalized careful justice being contrary to human nature.

I remember learning that ancient Athens had the same problem, with demagogues stirring up emotions to talk the assembly into doing all sort of stupid shit.

The more available group over-emotionality is, the more effort is required to suppress it in favor of reasoned responses.


This. 100% this. The left over ape in U.S. Yells "get um!" When it's angry. Formalized justice exists to mitigate this. The internet has just made it so much easier for mobs to organize.


One of the primary reasons we have a criminal justice system is to curtail vigilantism.


Yes. It has been said that without the Rule of Law there is only the Law of the Jungle.


Yeah. Mob justice is not some tool of the oppressed.

The US had something like 5400 lynching between 1880 and 1980. It seems that a culture steeped in that behavior would help the internet like the winds help a roof fire.


This isn't really the same thing; lynching was primarily an expression of racial hatred. And the angry internet mob is definitely a worldwide phenomenon.

Mob justice is very definitely a response to feelings that the conventional justice system is either too slow, too narrowly drawn, or too favouritist to address actual problems. And it sort of works; I wonder how many hunting trips have been cancelled after this event? (Hard to know since they were secret and illegal in the first place.)


> And it sort of works; I wonder how many hunting trips have been cancelled after this event?

I think that the 'sort of' here is important. Mob justice is, presumably, very good at curtailing activities of which the mob disapproves; but, not only is there no guarantee that the mob disapproves only of 'bad' activities—as the Gamergate situation mentioned by the article proves—but, perhaps even worse, there is no guarantee that what the mob approves today it will also approve tomorrow, nor that what one mob approves another will not attack.


No, they are the same thing.

From what I understand of the climate at the time, the justice system was seen as wrong in turning against recognizing different classes of people.


> maybe the rise of internet "mob justice" is in part due to the masses losing faith in traditional forms of justice. Doesn't make it right or wrong, just a reflection.

I meant neither to defend nor to condemn mob justice (except perhaps implicitly, by approving of the general thrust of the article), only to object to the specific grounds on which the paragraph I quoted criticised mob justice as opposed to traditional forms of justice.


I think the reason diaspora hasn't caught on is because micropayments aren't easy for the average user yet. If you want me to use bandwidth and keep a machine running in my house connected to some decentralized p2p facebook thingee, sure some might do it for free but if everyone who used your node tossed you 1/10th of penny or something like that per use maybe it would have a lower barrier to entry.

Not to mention that it needs to be much easier to setup a server securely for the average person, and have a digital wallet to store their micropayments. (I love bitcoin but asking your average facebook user to setup a wallet securely is still too difficult)

This article correctly called out the advertising incentive of today's big companies as not being in the average users' best interest. I wish it had also talked more about what kind of incentives that are missing to get people to become a part of p2p networks. Great article though, I like how the author tied in the slowing rate of discoveries/progress into the problem.


micropayments aren't easy for the average user yet

And never will be. Information assessment costs integral to the payment decisionmaking process are too high.

Bundle. Don't disaggregate.

(But allow for exclusion of high-cost items on request.)


When I switched to a keto diet I researched what kinds of oil to cook with and came to similar conclusions. I ditched all of the veggy oils in my pantry except olive oil. I buy a small tub of grass fed beef tallow that lasts about 3 months. A teaspoon for sautéing goes a long way.

Typically I combine an animal fat like the tallow, or butter with some olive oil when cooking. Occasionally I'll get fancy and buy goose or duck fat. Sometimes it's a pat of butter, or a scoop of coconut oil.

The food tastes better, and I feel better. It was hard to unlearn all of the bad science that came out of the last few decades about saturated fats, but hopefully I'll end up being better off for it.


I think the revolution that will allow unfettered exchange of ideas will be peer-to-peer microtransactions. Maybe some combination of bitcoin + tor + some yet to be created tech.

All of the corporate sites are going to devolve into corporate friendly zones soon enough.


The earth similarity index for venus is 0.44, and for mars is 0.70


I understand, but that's a synthetic benchmark. We actually have no idea why Earth has life and other planets don't and similarity to Earth may not be a big factor (see theories on life in Europa's seas for example or non-carbon based life).

I just feel everyone gets excited over nothing solely because its extra-solar. Our own solar system is fairly diverse. If life was common, we'd probably be seeing more of it here.


maybe life is common enough, but doesn't typically overlap in time. Maybe life on mars or venus died out a billion years ago.

We'll have a better picture when we study our solar system in more detail. Maybe 100 years? I agree that speculation this early in the game isn't enough to get excited over.


After reading that article it did not answer the question of how he made his job redundant.

It did tell me to hyper multi task and be more efficient (wow ground breaking /s).

Am I being obtuse? Was there an answer in there that I missed? I was really curious how he quit his day job...


Same. I was looking for how he was able to survive financially and quit his job. It just seemed like many paragraphs of bragging and rambling (and boasting about his speaking/blogging engagements).


maybe he started writing about that but got sidetracked context switching :)


After 2 years on HN, I finally created an account so I could upvote this comment.


You can check the first link in his post where he explains more of that http://www.troyhunt.com/2015/05/so-dust-has-finally-settled.... as well as the first link in that post http://www.troyhunt.com/2015/04/today-marks-two-important-mi... :)


Conferences/talks/pluralsight/consulting. His a big name in ms world, so he could do it pretty easily.


You might have missed it among all the bad advice about multitasking and working stupid hours, but he did give one piece of good advice in all that. His job was to do with systems administration/operations, and what he did was to write down everything he knew or had to learn about how to do his job, in the form of public blog posts, which he refined based on public feedback until they actually worked and were understandable. Then on the way out the door, all he had to do was give his successor the keys and the URL to the blog posts.


I get a feeling that he supposes his readers will mostly have been loyal followers for years or something like that, which unfortunately is impossible to be the case.


I also think multi tasking is usually inefficient.


freudian typo, is there such a thing?


Haha, maybe...

That was bad. Normally I try not to have such typos, but it is Monday.


It was brilliant!


wow that's super interesting! Align is the only other probiotic I've tried because they actually did some clinical trials with it. I'm ordering some of your product now, gotta support companies that are willing do to actual science, thanks for posting!


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