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They do make more money the more pervasive tariffs are though as more people would buy tariff related financial products.


It's true that a volatile environment in general is good for certain types of investment banking business, including facilitating this trade. I nevertheless think it's unlikely - honestly, a galaxy brain take - that Cantor Fitzgerald or other investment banks with influence in the Trump administration would push for policies like unconstitutional tariffs just to drive trading revenue. Maybe the strongest reason is that other, frankly more lucrative investment banking activities, like fundraising and M&A, benefit from a growing economy and a stable economic and regulatory environment.


It stretches your imagination to conceive of a financier chasing short term gains over the long term stability of the investment bank they are part of? I seem to recall an event back in the late '00s that you may want to look into.


Glad to hear an open source option getting more adoption


Thank you for pointing this out. I didn't catch that the parent comment was ai either and upvoted it. Changed it to a downvote seeing your comment and realizing it the comment did indeed have many AI flags.


Thank you for sharing your perspective and engaging on hackernews!


Great comment on hardware and maintenance costs, and in comparison Elon wrote "My estimate is that within 2 to 3 years, the lowest cost way to generate AI compute will be in space." It's a pity this reads like the entire acquisition of xAi is based on "Elon's napkin math" (maybe he checked it with Grok)


The deal they made values xAI at $230 Billion. It’s a made up number, with no trustworthy financial justification to back it up. It is set to provide a certain return to xAI’s investors (the valuation decides the amount you get per share), who in turn are bailing out the earlier acquisition of X (Twitter). All of this is basically a shell game where Elon is using one company to bail out another. It’s a way of reducing the risk of new ventures by spreading them out between his companies. It’s also really bad for SpaceX employees and investors, who are basically subsidizing other companies.

The thing is, everyone knows Elon is not a real CEO of any of these companies. There isn’t enough time to even be the CEO of one company and a parent. This guy has 10 companies and 10 children. He’s just holding the position and preventing others from being in that position, so he can enact changes like this. And his boards are all stacked with family members, close friends, and sycophants who won’t oppose his agenda.


As both are private companies none of this matters if the investors of both companies are happy.


Most of the investors don’t even have a choice. Nor do all the other shareholders like employees. And the boards of Musk companies are stacked with his yes men.


This was well known before the investments were made. If the investors were not happy with this they would not have invested.


Ah yes, my favourite kind of engineering: financial engineering


He's bailing out one of his failing ventures with one of his so far successful ones. The BS napkin math isn't the reason he's doing it. It's the excuse for doing it.


Or he's having another mental break because he knocked up yet another woman and is going to have yet another kid he can't remember the name of.


Can you provide a link for that quote, because that quote is absolute stupidity.


It's in the article that you're commenting on, https://www.spacex.com/updates#xai-joins-spacex.


Oh, ffs.


Haha. It's less than 1,000 words that would take less than 5 minutes to read.

I bet much less than half of the hundreds of HN commenters here bother to read it. Many are clearly unfamiliar with its content.


I can't, I don't want it in my head :/


This is also a political issue. The administration could have ftc investigate this under anti-trust, and the government could also pass tighter laws preventing this. But this current administration is likely too friendly to big corporate interests.


yep also curious about this!


NANC


lol this also appears to be satire?


We follow a moto in our company:

> While none of the work we do is very important, it is important that we do a great deal of it.


This seems a frivolous attitude to something so serious. Have you considered how using a proxy could make you align your attitude better?


I wonder how much their lawyers are using AI to inform their legal tactics: "Please generate an exhaustive subpoena that will help us defend against this claim"


I got home, chose to call my mom and then immediately got fired at work because I had run out of masking points :(


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