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Cheers! <holdingupdatavodkawithredbull>


If you use Perl in CGI only then you seem to misunderstand lots of stuff. The Perl interpreter is loaded once per FastCGI task, so noone waits.... its the startup (which is then 100times faster against C# or Java, but whatever, not the topic). So please, dont compare Apples with Pears.


I rarely use Perl CGI. I haven't since about 2002.

Regarding C# and Java startup. It's not an issue. You can warm start appdomains/JVMs. We do this.

Once it's running, both Java and C# run rings around most things.


Impressive post... Perl Marketing and DuckDuckGo wanna thank you for those wise words :-) (from a guy working for both). Would be nice if you would get into contact with me: getty@duckduckgo.com or getty@cpan.org ;)


You dont need to convince them to switch! You can still talk to your gtalk friends, its all XMPP/Jabber! This is not a service just for inside duckduckgo. Inform yourself a bit more about XMPPP/Jabber :-).


>Inform yourself a bit more about XMPPP/Jabber :-).

I think that perhaps, like me, they were hoping that you would be interested in sharing a couple of use cases for XMPP with us ...?


Why?! :-)


https://duck.co/#Topic/28469000000637077

Note the #. Now, remove it and everything after it and reload the page.

Why am I being downvoted? Didn't we all just throw shit at gawker for doing the same thing?

EDIT: This fundamentally breaks the web. The # and everything after it are _not_ sent to the server. It relies on javascript and extra-protocol information to get the document, which breaks the idea of a resource having its own name. The # was suppose to denote a section of a resource, not a resource in-and-of itself. I'm sure everyone here knows this, but I had to get it off my chest.


We will see :-) So far we dont have a place where we put the name lol :-) All step by step! :-)


We at DuckDuckGo assure the same anti-tracking policy on our XMPP server. There is nothing greater about DDG then other sites following the same policy :-). But its DDG :-)


That's cool. But I've no idea if you're retaining IP logs and chat logs. You really need a service specific privacy policy which details exactly what you store and for how long.


We definitly will add such a page, so far i can point you to the statement on our forum, you can see it here:

http://duck.co/topic/duckduckgo-s-new-public-xmpp-jabber-ser...

See down under the comments, i explained there what is so far logged, but we will tune this now over the next days.


I always suggest prosody :-) And we use this as our XMPP server cause its the modern way to use XMPP :)


I second the Prosody recommendation. I'm in the process of migrating my Jabber server to it, and it's quite slick.


We use a Perl Bot for this. It will uses POE-Components to connect to the IRC and to the XMPP and then dispatches the messages to one from the other.

If you are interested, just join us on IRC and we talk about it :)


A friend did this: https://gitorious.org/irctk ("irctk is a general-purpose IRC wrapper written in C with libircclient"). I think it could be pretty straightforward to do the job using it.


We prefer Perl, cause we got one solution for everything and can easily combine the thousands components offered. Just cause a lib does IRC doesnt help us much :-) It must be easy! :)


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