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The linked blog contains a story about who funds archive today and they presumably don’t like being exposed.

The crucial context here is that archive.today provides a useful public service for free.

Jani Patokallio runs gyrovague.net in order to harass people who provide useful public services.

It's not surprising that the owner of archive.today does not like being exposed, archiving is a risky business.


Should providing a public service absolve all sins?

So far, the only sin archive.today has been accused of is retaliating against a guy attempting to dox them.

That's a pretty small sin in my book. To be written off as wildly unsuccessful but entirely justified self defense.

DDoSing gyrovague.com is silly, not evil.

The content on gyrovague.com which targets archive.today is evil, plain and simple.


The person who runs archive.today decided to involve me, and every other visitor, in their dispute. They decided to use us to hurt someone else. That's a pretty big sin in my book.

archive.today has a documented history of altering the archived content, as such they immediately lose the veil of protection of a service of "public good" in my books.

Just my 2 ¢, not that it really matters anymore in this current information-warfare climate and polarization. :/


> archive.today has a documented history of altering the archived content

Wow, I had no idea. Thanks.


Archive.org has an even worse history of this, FWIW.

It allows website owners and third parties to tamper with archived content.

Look here, for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20140701040026/http://echo.msk.r...

Archive.today is by far the best option available.


> So far, the only sin archive.today has been accused of is retaliating against a guy attempting to dox them.

I think you're missing that circumventing paywalls is unlawful in most parts of the world.


Respectfully, it's not, in most parts of the world.

> I think you're missing that circumventing paywalls is unlawful in most parts of the world.

And a necessity if you want to archive the content correctly, also necessary if you want the archives to be publicly available.


Not really sure if circumventing paywalls is that unlawful across the world, but basically copying and pasting an entire web page is just clear and simple copyright violation.

I know it's petty. But don't act surprised when you find your garbage strewn all over your lawn next morning after you flipped off your neighbor the fourth time.

Look at "i-pay-for-all-online-articles-always" over here.

You mean just to keep their secrets hidden they hurt others?

Like most companies or state ?

As an individual, keeping their identity private is the only way to prevent oppression.


Thanks. I am so confused by this social drama, I feel like I am getting too old for this.

It’s truly weird and unhinged the extent to which two rando Internet People are willing to grief each other.

Parasocialweb 2.0 I suppose.

well that exposing is hurting more than 2 for sure

Remove the ads from windows professional.

I'm glad I missed: GraphQL, Kubernetes, Microservices, the Metaverse.

I'm glad I jumped early on: Linux, Python, virtualization, cloud, nodejs, Solana.

I wish I'd gotten into Rust and LLMs earlier.


I worked on IBM GS's dedicated Linux team. Notes didn't have a native client, so someone made a secret IBM internal tool call `fetchnotes` - a small binary that converted Lotus X400 email into POP3 or IMAP4 (not sure which), calendar appointments into icals, and contcts into vcard.

It got so popular - you could do your work using Thunderbird instead of Notes - that Windows users wanted to run Linux VMs to run Fetchnotes and not have to use Notes.


> a sufficiently large crowd of juggalos

Some kind of gathering of the Juggalos?


lol I paid 17K for NYC - two months rent, extra month for being foreign, 2K since they removed blinds since they showed me the apartment and everyone in NYC could see into my house.

Yep x402 is for any blockchain rather than just Stripe. I use it: it’s like being able to access a service without having to sign up and get an API key.

How do you use it? I explored building on this as a platform but ditched it because only crypto nerds seem to use it and fiat is used all around anyway.

Yes you need crypto for small payments. If you prefer using cards that’s fine but you don’t get to pay for things per API call.

A few months ago, I asked Grok for a piece of fiction set in the cyberpunk 2077 universe. A cremated incredible story about a braindance that was actually stealthily programming the watcher through a back door in the watchers own implants to transmit a AI from beyond the black wall, allowing the AI to escape into the physical universe through the braindance’s audience. Excellent.

I can understand Beijing wanting reunification, but Taiwan should surely rule Beijing - the CCP is a dictatorship, and has no mandate. The President of Taiwan is directly elected every four years.

Reusable rockets, paralysed people controlling things with their minds, aligned models that treat human life equally regardless of race, these are all important things. What have you done?

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