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Facebook's strong suit has always been gossip. Why are they even spending for anything else

That was the point of Horizon Worlds. They were trying a (very expensive) social play for VR.

The problem is that the intersection/suitability of VR and social media is rather low, while as a counterexample the intersection of mobile and social media is very large. I have no desire to chat with old classmates when I "suit up" with VR goggles, I'm there to game.


Yep, far worse than cryptocurrency

At least cryptocurrencies had some nice ideas behind them. Just sad they almost immediately got co-opted by swindlers and criminals.

Prediction markets also have very interesting ideas.

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2025/10/pr...


The source is a company that works with Polymarket and sells Polymarket data (as well as Kalshi and other gambling platforms).

The findings are consistent with academic research that these markets are well calibrated.

Could be, you should reference the academic research then.

Marginal revolution has been talking up prediction markets since before they existed. In fact polymarket probably was created after its founder read Cowen's thoughts on prediction markets.

> 12 hour ahead prediction

As the comments on that article rightfully point out, restricting the data analysed to 12 hours before the resolution feels like cherry picking.


It may be cherry-picking, but I think some commenters misunderstand this (or maybe I do).

The implication seems to be "12 hours before the resolution things are obvious anyway". But if that were the case, then I could pick some wager that is obviously true but has, for example, 70% chance, and putting my money on that. If it was true that "12 hours before the resolution it's obvious what the result is", everything would be in 0% or 100% buckets. I believe getting event with 30% confidence right exactly 30% times is impressive no matter if that's 12h or 120h before.

Disclaimer: I don't know much about prediction markets, just what I understood from the blog post.


Not really.

1. As pointed out in the comments, you can inflate your prediction success rate by predicting things that are 100% to happen. There are plenty of 99.9% bets on Polymarket with degens betting on some 0.01% lottery event trying to strike a jackpot against the odds, and those will inflate the perceived accuracy.

2. All you're really doing is paying insiders to leak information a few hours ahead of time. Insofar as Polymarket is unusually accurate on things that aren't ~100% to happen, it's likely because in the 12-hour-window that post measures is when all of the insiders place their last-minute bets telling you what will happen. This is extremely bad for society. It's wealth redistribution from stupid people to unethical people[1], and it could completely compromise national security when eg. an insider tells you 12 hours ahead of time that the US is about to launch an invasion of Venezuela. There is no societal benefit to this.

[1] Even if you have no sympathy for idiots who bet their life savings on markets without having insider information, gambling addiction has extremely detrimental effects on society and directly results in increased crime rates, divorce rates, etc. as people lose all of their money and do bad things in desperation, so it is a problem that becomes everyone else's problem.


1. That is not how prediction market calibration plots work! Calibration is measured across the range of markets with different forecasted odds.

https://calibration.city/introduction

https://manifold.markets/calibration

2. That is just obviously not all these markets are doing. They're aligning incentives and aggregating information in the same way other markets do.


Wait until they ban prediction markets, then they will re-appear, and you will have to use cryptocurrency :)

Polymarket already only accepts cryptocurrencies. :)

Kalshi is worse in a sense that it also accepts fiat payments.


Maybe in your country, I just checked from Spain and they do accept paypal and credit cards.

In the US specifically, because they weren't allowed to operate in the US until November last year. But... they didn't really try to prevent US users from accessing it, just gently pointed them towards using a VPN and paying with cryptocurrencies.

"Coincidentally", they also gave a bullshit advisory position to Trump Jr. and accepted an investment from his firm (1789 Capital), which I'm sure had nothing to do with them getting that licence. But to be "fair and balanced" to Polymarket, Trump Jr. is also Kalshi's "strategic advisor", so there's that!


I’d be surprised if there wasn’t already a huge crypto-only dark market where lots of rich criminals bet huge sums.

If you’re in that telegram channel, though, I imagine the threats on your life are a lot more credible than the ones discussed in TFA.


not easy because you d need a trusted central to settle the outcomes. So far, crypto has only solved the betting part

Cryptocurrency itself was designed to enable crime. Why else would one want an end-run around governments and law-enforcement, unless one were a criminal wanting to prey on others risk-free?

A statement made from either privilige, ignorance or both.

Just because you might agree with the actions and behaviour of your current government enough, that you don't mind them being able to have a hand in your currency, doesn't mean that can't change.


Not all governments are good, trustworthy or even exist at all. For people in an oppressed or even full out broken society, being this level of criminal is acceptable.

But yes, something used to work around bad governments, will also be used against good governments. Every legit tool can be also abused.


> a criminal wanting to prey on others risk-free

E.g. a Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks?


So, in your mind, making a payment, recieving a payment and holding money in savings are always bad when it goes against any government's law or order?

> So, in your mind, making a payment, recieving a payment and holding money in savings are always bad when it goes against any government's law or order?

That's not how I read GP; "Why would you want to do an end-run around the government when using currency?" is different to, well, whatever it is you are saying (I'm not sure I can decipher it well enough - seems to be "using currency is bad when it goes against laws", but I think that's fine too, so not really sure what your message is - maybe you can clarify?)

Using legal tender is not a problem. Using barter (which is what using crypocurrencies boils down to) is also not a problem. Lack of reporting your income to the tax authorities is a problem. Most bartering systems are too small to warrant the attention of tax authorities, but cryptocurrencies facilitate bartering at scale, which does warrant interest.


Cryptocurrencies enable crime, but they also enable people to circumvent bad policies, and the damage done by bad governmental policies is not small, particularly outside the Western democracies.

Helping the the wealthy opt-out or circumvent bad policy reduces the incentives to improve government policy. A short term win for individuals becomes a long term loss for society.

This is true even in wealthy societies: see private schools, privatized healthcare, private transport.


I've seen reports that poor people stuck in Venezuela have used Bitcoin to take payments for remote work and then to send payments overseas for expenses such as the purchase of a computer (necessary to keep working) that would have been impossible through government-sanctioned means because the government of Venezuela felt it necessary to prevent "hard currency" from leaving the country, which effectively made it impossible for Venezuelans without personal connections to those in power to buy things like computers at all (since Venezuela of course does not have domestic production of computers). Argentina would be another example of another government that had similar controls to prevent hard currency from leaving the country (probably no longer in place, but probably were in place for decades).

I'm not pro-cryptocurrencies, but assessing their impact is not as simple as you and others here imply.


I'd say that the advantage for Venezuelans has more to do on having a cheap and fast way of transferring money than the cryptocurrency itself. IIRC an article that I read pointed that crypto holdings in there where very short lived, meaning people didn't keep the coins as a way of savings

I agree. A CC can serve both functions (a vehicle in which park cash and a way to send and receive money).

Not paying taxes and not declaring your assets is always bad, yes.

AI is 1000%+ far worse to be fair.

Cryptocurrency (although I hate it) you don't have to participate, so no harm done.

Prediction Markets you don't have to participate, so no harm done.

With AI, you're participating whether you like it or not. Layoffs, Job displacement, etc. There is no opt out here.

Once you're replaced with AI, that is it.

At least with cryptocurrency and prediction markets you can make money but it's obviously risky.

Ultimately with AI it would just push people to cryptocurrencies and prediction markets.


> Prediction Markets you don't have to participate, so no harm done.

What if there's a prediction market on your life? Would you say you're still "not participating, so no harm done" ?


> Prediction Markets you don't have to participate, so no harm done.

Did you read the article? It is about a journalist getting death threats from members of a prediction market.


Dude, stop.

Do you have a positive defense of betting markets? You're spraying defensive whataboutism all over this thread and lowering the discourse.

> Prediction Markets you don't have to participate, so no harm done.

Harm: https://www.npr.org/2025/11/13/nx-s1-5605561/college-athlete...

Harm: https://militarnyi.com/en/news/in-november-an-isw-analyst-ma...

Harm: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/05/prediction-markets-merkley-b...


Why did you send in an article that was completely irrelevant that has nothing to do with prediction markets?

What you're showing me is a death threat, which has existed for time in humans.

Betting markets of all kinds have existed for a long time and haven't been banned.

Banning on particular betting market prediction markets altogether and pushing it underground would make things far worse.


Many kinds of betting markets are or were banned all over the world. The sky didn’t fall, and what underground markets existed didn’t lead to huge gang wars or whatever.

Given that the article is discussing some of the bad behavior typically associated with dark markets (death threats, extortion, fixing) happening in the light, what makes you think that banning them would make things worse?


    What you're showing me is a [war crime], which has existed for time in humans.

    [Wars] of all kinds have existed for a long time and haven't been banned.

    Banning on [particular tactics in war] altogether and pushing it underground would make things far worse.
Do you see the problem with your logic?

This one can easily be blamed on apple. I wonder how many awful design decisions we suffered because of their trendsetting

The decision was made by AI

The EU is not funding projects directly, it's setting the rules. Individual governments pay the bill

Is this perhaps changing with Macron indicating Europe will keep the €300B Europe has been investing in the US annually in Europe?

Macron says €300B in EU savings sent to the US every year will be invested in EU - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46722594 - January 2026 (207 comments)

Europe can go fast when it wants to.

How Europe Ditched Russian Fossil Fuels With Spectacular Speed - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-02-21/ukraine-n... | https://archive.today/yxGp2 - February 21st, 2023

> But what the past year has shown is that it’s possible to go harder and faster in deploying solar panels and batteries, reducing energy use, and permanently swapping out entrenched sources of fossil fuel.

> Solar installations across Europe increased by a record 40-gigawatts last year, up 35% compared with 2021, just shy of the most optimistic scenario from researchers at BloombergNEF. That jump was driven primarily by consumers who saw cheap solar panels as a way to cut their own energy bills. It essentially pushed the solar rollout ahead by a few years, hitting a level that will be sustained by EU policies.


This is not entirely correct. The EU actually does both — it sets regulatory frameworks and funds projects directly through several mechanisms.

The car is then required to do X number of self driving rides for free until the total amount is paid off

This is the new web hosting. All the valuations are absurd

Doesn't "web hosting" print money for Amazon?

Yeah the pattern is , "with great power comes great irresponsibility" , which is only confained when the power is matched by rivals

Yet the Cold War taught us that competition between rivals doesn't contain power at all.

Should power be contained? Humans always rise up against their oppressors and I find that a comforting thought.

Tyranny, slavery, colonialism- it never lasts.


The number of people trapped in modern slavery today is an all-time high across the whole history.

Indeed one of the reasons to advocate for the Nuclear Holocaust is because it will eliminate slavery once and for all. Under sufficient nuclear bombardment, we could guarantee zero slaves.

> Humans always rise up against their oppressors

Successfully?


what purpose does this serve? betting ?

One of the more unintentionally depressing comments I have ever seen on HN, the first guess on the "purpose" of reporting on a war is to profit from it by gambling. Our society has gotten to a dark place.

what i find sad is a dashboard so that taxpayers can watch their money turning to murder in real time.

the redeeming quality is that the information is extremely incomplete , lots of things happening we don't see or know about


>what i find sad is a dashboard so that taxpayers can watch their money turning to murder in real time.

The existence of a dashboard is not an inherent endorsement of that murder. It's easy to look at this dashboard as a critique of that murder even if that wasn't the intent of the author. However, your initial jump to assuming that this dashboard is more likely to serve a financial purpose does reveal an actual political ideology (although not necessarily your political ideology), a cold dehumanizing capitalistic ideology, the kind I would consider largely responsible for those murders.


Can you explain what purpose it serves and why, other than those i suggested. That was my initial question


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