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Sounds good, too bad I only have $5k available. Even if I spend all on FXY it won't gain that much from the current $58.6 in the forseeable future. Rich get richer I guess so nothing changes just the location.

>Competitive Salary – We ensure fair and attractive compensation that reflects your skills and experience: 18 000 - 27 000 PLN/month

I know it's eastern Europe but that's $5000-7500 a month, barely $90k a year. It sounds like a solo job too so a lot of responsibility for this salary.


> $90k a year.

$90K a year goes much further in most of Europe barring the centres of the biggest cities—let alone eastern Europe—than it does in the US.

NYC and Bay Area salaries are outrageously inflated, with much of the take-home being funnelled into four/five digit rents or mortgages for houses built out of matchsticks, car loans, health insurance payments, and more. None of this is necessary or costs as much in most of Europe, or the rest of the world, really.


> $90K a year goes much further in most of Europe barring the centres of the biggest cities […] NYC and Bay Area salaries are outrageously inflated.

Apples to oranges.


That's in the 50k EUR - 77k EUR range which is senior-level pay in EU. Add to that it includes pension, tax prepayments and health insurance. They also seem to offer lots of perks in the office.

If you account for the fact that Poland is generally less expensive than the average and that the average monthly living cost is ~900 EUR ( https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?cou... ), even the 50k lower bracket is in the higher range. You get ~2k EUR net/month in your account after pension and tax contributions, health insurance, rent and expenses (as a single). That's not bad at all. EDIT: (excluding rent)


It doesn't compete with the better local companies though. It's fairly in the middle of the pack.

900 EUR might be enough for student-like living if you own the apartment you're living in, or by sharing a room when renting, but it's not even close to acceptable level in Warsaw.

$90k a year before tax is a very very good salary in Norway, and even a decent developer salary. It's much better in eastern Europe.

Yeah that's a good salary in Europe. It's only slightly less than I make in the UK as a senior.

Ditto. It seems like the graduate wage in the US is 2x my senior salary in the UK, which sounds very similar to yours. It seems massively inflated compared to other US jobs. Tech jobs in the UK seem to be more inline with other sectors.

The standard of living is higher in France than in eastern Europe, and even in France that's considered a high salary.

US devs are vastly over payed.

Welcome to Europe!

That's a very livable wage in Poland. The wages are significantly lower, but so are the costs of living.

Barely? It's more than twice the mediage wage in Poland.

This is pretty much a standard salary range for a Senior Dev in Poland. Outside of Warsaw it can be even lower.

In Eastern Europe, that's 1% level of income when measured against the quality of life you can have.

Their lattes also cost much less than a Silicon Valley latte :)

I went down the self host route some years ago but once critical problems hit I realized that beyond a simple NAS it can be a very demanding hobby.

I was in another country when there was a power outage at home. My internet went down, the server restart but couldn't reconnect anymore because the optical network router also had some problems after the power outage. I could ask my folks to restart, and turn on off things but nothing more than that. So I couldn't reach my Nextcloud instance and other stuff. Maybe an uninterruptible power supply could have helped but the more I was thinking about it after just didn't really worth the hassle anymore. Add a UPS okay. But why not add a dual WAN failover router for extra security if the internet goes down again? etc. It's a bottomless pit (like most hobbies tbh)

Also (and that's a me problem maybe) I was using Tailscale but I'm more "paranoid" about it nowadays. Single point of failure service, US-only SSO login (MS, Github, Apple, Google), what if my Apple account gets locked if I redeem a gift card and I can't use Tailscale anymore? I still believe in self hosting but probably I want something even more "self" to the extremes.


I thought I was smart because I invested in UPS backup from the start.

Then 5 years later there was a power outage and the UPS lasted for about 10 seconds before the batteries failed. That's how I learned about UPS battery maintenance schedules and the importance of testing.

I have a calendar alert to test the UPS. I groan whenever it comes up because I know there's a chance I'm going to discover the batteries won't hold up under load any more, which means I not only have to deal with the server losing power but I have to do the next round of guessing which replacement batteries are coming from a good brand this time. Using the same vendor doesn't even guarantee you're going to get the same quality when you only buy every several years.

Backup generators have their own maintenance schedule.

I think the future situation should be better with lithium chemistry UPS, but every time I look the available options are either exorbitantly expensive or they're cobbled together from parts in a way that kind of works but has a lot of limitations and up-front work.


My APC UPS self-tested and monitored battery status automatically. Then started to endlessly beep when it noticed the battery needed replacing (could be muted though). Eventually, I stopped using UPS since I rarely needed it and it was just another thing to keep and maintain.


Check out some non-lead acid battery solutions like: https://www.ecoflow.com/us/blog/use-portable-power-station-a...

Another maker is Goldenmate (less I be accused of being an ad)


My spouse and I work at home and after the first couple multi-day power outages we invested in good UPSs and a whole house standby generator. Now when the power goes out it's down for at most 30 seconds.

This also makes self-hosting more viable, since our availability is constrained by internet provider rather than power.


Yeah we did a similar thing. Same situation, spouse and I both work from home, and we got hit by a multiple day power outage due to a rare severe ice storm. So now I have an EV and a transfer switch so I can go for a week without power, and I have a Starlink upstream connection in standby mode that can be activated in minutes.

Of course that means we’ll not have another ice storm in my lifetime. My neighbors should thank me.


We had a 5 day outage last year, got a generator at the tail end of the windy season and made exact same jokes.

A year later another atmospheric river hit and we had a 4 hour outage. No more jokes.

Make sure to run that generator once every few months with some load to keep it happy.


Well, it's an EV with a big inverter, not a generator, but I get your point. And I do periodically fire it up and run the house on it for a little while, just to exercise the connection and maintain my familiarity with it in case I need to use it late at night in the dark with an ice storm breaking all the trees around us.


Oh, I see! Genuinely curious -- what kind of EV has a battery to power a house for a week?

> maintain my familiarity with it in case I need to use it late at night in the dark with an ice storm breaking all the trees around us.

That's the way to do it. I usually did my trial runs during the day with light readily available but underestimated how much I needed to see what I am doing. Now there's a grounding plug and a flashlight in the "oh shit kit".


> what kind of EV has a battery to power a house for a week?

Assuming their heating, cooking and hot water is gas, a house doesn't actually consume that much. With a 50kWh battery you can draw just under 300W continuously for a week. I'd expect the average house to draw ~200W with lighting and a few electronics, with a lean towards the evenings for the lighting.


On paper the numbers look right, but a week off _50kWh_ EV battery feels off.

What follows is back of the napkin calculations, so please treat it as such and correct me if I am wrong.

1. Inverters are not 100% efficient. Let's assume 90%

2. Let's also assume that the user does not want to draw battery to 0 to not become stranded or have to do the "Honda generator in the trunk" trick. Extra 10%?

3. 300W continuous sounds a bit low even with gas appliances. Things like the fridge and furnace blower have spiky loads that push the daily average. Let's add 100W to the average load? I might be being too generous here, but I used 300W, not the 200W lower bound.

4. Vehicle side might need some consumption. If powering off the battery, it would probably need to cool the battery or keep some smarts on to make sure it does not drain or overheat? Genuinely not sure how to estimate this, let's neglect it for now.

Math is (50kw - 10%(inverter loss) - 10%(reserve)) / 0.4 = 100 (hours), ~ 4 days.

The above calculations assume a sane configuration (proper bidirectional wire, not suicide cord into 12v outlet). Quick skim of search for cars with bidirectional charging support for home shows batteries between ~40kWh(Leaf) to 250 kWh (Hummer).

So looks like one should be looking for ~80kWh battery, which actually most of the cars in the list have.

Again, very back of the napkin, would probably wanna add 20% margin of error.


Actually yes one thing I didn't consider in my calculation is the fridge (mostly because it's a spiky load that rarely comes on and I based it off my own apartment's instantaneous consumption at the time which was ~100W since the fridge compressor wasn't running).

Indeed with the fridge it pushes it a bit. But to address some of your other points:

> it would probably need to cool the battery

I'd expect if you're in a storm then you probably don't need any cooling - not to mention a 300W load is nothing for an EV battery compared to actually moving the vehicle. I'd expect some computers in the vehicle to be alive but that should be a ~10-20W draw.

On the other hand, my calculation assumes ~300W continuous. I expect the consumption to lean into the evenings due to the extra lighting, and drop off during other times.

But yes 80kWh might very well be what the OP has; I intentionally picked 50kWh as the lowest option I found on a "<major ev brand> battery kwh" search.


I just asked my wife the other day: "Does it feel like we're having less power outages now that we got the generator?" :)


Thanks for taking one for the team.


Same! Texas?


2025 was the year of LiFePo power packs for me and my family. Absolute game changers: 1000Wh of power with a multi-socket inverter and UPS-like failover. You lose capacity over a gas genny but the simplicity and lack of fumes adds back a lot of value. If it’s sunny you can also make your own fuel.

https://www.ankersolix.com/ca/products/f2600-400w-portable-s...


Yeah how does that work if you statistically have a outage > 24 hours a few times a year? How long does that last?

Also generators are still cheap compared to batteries?


You’re right, it’s not much, but it is convenient and clean. A few lamps, USB charging, and a router/modem will use a few tens of watts and the big power pack will keep that going for eight hours.

For longer outages there is an outhouse with triple-redundant generators:

- Honda c. 2005

- Honda c. 1985

- Briggs & Stratton c. 1940

The “redundancy” here is that the first is to provide power in the event of a long power outage, and the other two are redundant museum pieces (which turn over!)


> My spouse and I work at home and after the first couple multi-day power outages we invested in good UPSs and a whole house standby generator.

What setup did you go with for whole house backup power?


Generac 26kW Guardian, natural gas fueled, connected to a pair of automatic transfer switches. We have two electric meters due to having a ground source heat pump on its own meter.


During winter outages, do you stick to the heat pump or switch to a backup heat (e.g. furnace)?

I regrettably removed our old furnace/tank when installing the air source heat pump we have now (northeast), but that’s been my biggest concern power wise


Yea I think my own preference for self-hosting boils down to a distrust of a continuous dependency on a service in control of a company and a desire to minimize such dependencies. While there are FOSS and self-hostable alternatives to tailscale or indeed claude code, using those services themselves simply replaces old dependencies on externally-controlled cloud-based services on new ones


You can self-host Pocket ID (or another OIDC auth service) on a tiny $1/mo box and use that as your identity provider for Tailscale. Here's a video explaining how: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPUkAm7yDlU


> I was in another country when there was a power outage at home.

If you are going to be away from home a lot, then yes, it's a bottomless pit. Because you have to build a system that does not rely on the possibility of you being there, anytime.


I really enjoy self-hosting on rented compute. It's theoretically easy to migrate to an on-prem setup, but I don't have to deal with the physical responsibilities while it's in the cloud.


Depends what you are trying to host. For many people it’s either to keep their private data local, or stuff that has to be on the home network (pi hole / home assistant)

If you just want to put a service on the internet, a VPS is the way to go.


Long time ago, it was popular for ISPs offer a small amount of space for personal websites. We might see a resurgence of this, but with cheap VPS. Eventually.


Free static site hosting and cheap VPSs already exist. Self hosting is less about putting sites on the internet now and more about replicating cloud services locally.


VPS's are really so dirt cheap that some of them only work because people dont use the servers 100% that they are allocated at or when people dont use the resources they have for most part because of economies of scale but vps's are definitely subsidized.

Cheap vps servers 1 gb ram and everything can cost around 10-11$ per year and using something like hetzner's cheap as well for around 30$ ish an year or 3$ per month most likely while having some great resilient numbers and everything

If anything, people self host because they own servers so upgrading becomes easier (but there are vps's which target a niche which people should look at like storage vps, high perf vps, high mem vps etc. which can sometimes provide servers for dirt cheap for your specific use case)

The other reason I feel like are the ownership aspect of things. I own this server, I can upgrade this server without costing a bank or like I can stack up my investment in a way and one other reason is that with your complete ownership, you don't have to enforce t&c's so much. Want to provide your friends or family vps servers or people on internet themselves? Set up a proxmox or incus server and do it.

Most vps servers sometimes either outright ban reselling or if they allow, they might sometimes ban your whole account for something that someone else might have done so somethings are at jeopardy if you do this simply because they have to find automated ways of dealing with abuse at scale and some cloud providers are more lenient than others in banning matters. (OVH is relaxed in this area whereas hetzner, for better or for worse, is strict on its enforcement)


Self hosting for me is important because I want to secure the data. I've got my files and photos on there, I want to have the drive encrypted with my key. Not just sitting on a drive I don't have any control over. Also because it plugs in to my smart home devices which requires being on the local network.

For something like a website I want on the public internet with perfect reliability, a VPS is a much better option.


I have a desktop I use but if I had to start again, I’d build a low power r pi or n100 type system that can be powered by a mobile battery backup with solar (flow type with sub 10ms switching and good battery chemistry for long life) that can do the basic homelab tasks. Planning for power outages from the get go rather than assuming unlimited and cheap power


Tailscale has passkey-only account support but requires you to sign up in a roundabout way (first use an SSO, then invite another user, throw away the original). The tailnet lock feature also protects you to some extent, arguably more so than solutions involving self-hosting a coordination server on a public cloud.


I made the same revelation.

Self hosting sounds so simple, but if you consider all the critical factors involved, in becomes a full time job. You own your server. In every regard.

And security is only one crucial aspect. How spam filters react to your IP is another story.

In the end I cherrish the dream but rely on third party server providers.


syncthing might be worth looking into. ive been using that more and more the last few years for anything that i use daily, things like keepass, plain-text notes, calendars/contacts, rss feeds, then everything else that im "self hosting" are just things that i might only use a few times a week so its no big deal if i lose access.

its so much simpler when you have the files stored locally, then syncing between devices is just something that can happen whenever. anything that is running on a server needs user permissions, wifi, a router etc etc, its just a lot of complexity for very little gain.

although keep in mind im the only one using all of this stuff. if i needed to share things with other people then syncthing gets a bit trickier and a central server starts to make more sense


Well, its not a bottomless pit really. Yes you need a UPS. That’s basically it though.


UPS batteries don't last forever.

So now you need to test them regularly. And order new ones when they're not holding a charge any more. Then power down the server, unplug it, pull the UPS out, swap batteries, etc.

Then even when I think I've got the UPS automatic shutdown scripts and drivers finally working just right under linux, a routine version upgrade breaks it all for some reason and I'm spending another 30 minutes reading through obscure docs and running tests until it works again.


Not sure what to say then. I run nixos on ~15 different VMs / minipcs, a total of I guess 6 physical machines. Never had to deal with a UPS battery dying, and havent had to do anything to address NUT breaking. I broadcast NUT via synology NAS though, so the only direct client of the UPS status is the NAS. Ive never once had an issue in the ~5 years Ive had it setup like this.


My home server doesn't need to be high availability, and the BIOS is set to whatever state prior to power loss. I don't have a UPS. However, we were recently hit with a telco outage while visiting family out of town. As far as I can tell there wasn't a power outage, but it took a hard reboot of the modem to get connectivity back. Frustrating because it meant no checking home automation/security and of course no access to the servers. I'm not at a point where my homelab is important enough that I would invest in a redundant WAN though.

I've also worked in environments where the most pragmatic solution was to issue a reboot periodically and accept the minute or two of (external) downtime. Our problem is probably down to T-Mobile's lousy consumer hardware.


As another commenter said (but got downvoted to oblivion for some reason), its not really about uptime for the homelab, its about graceful shutdown/restart. And theres well defined protocols for it (look up network ups tools, aka NUT).


> its not really about uptime for the homelab, its about graceful shutdown/restart.

These are different requirements. The issue I described was not a power outage and having a well managed UPS wouldn't have made a difference. Nothing shut down, but we lost 5G in the area and T-Mobile's modem is janky. My point is that it's another edge case that you need to consider when self hosting, because all the remote management and PDUs in the world can't save you if you can't log into the system.

Of course there's all you need is a smart plug and a script/Home Assistant routine which pings every now and again. There are enterprise versions of this, but simple and cheap works for me.


Power outages here tend to last an hour or more. A UPS doesn't last forever, and depending on how much home compute you have, might not last long enough for anything more than a brief outage. A UPS doesn't magically solve things. Maybe you need a home generator to handle extended outages...

How bottomless of a pit it becomes depends on a lot of things. It CAN become a bottomless pit if you need perfect uptime.

I host a lot of stuff, but nextcloud to me is photo sync, not business. I can wait til I'm home to turn the server back on. It's not a bottomless pit for me, but I don't really care if it has downtime.


Fairly frequently, 6kVA UPSs come up for sale locally to me, for dirt cheap (<$400). Yes, they're used, and yes, they'll need ~$500 worth of batteries immediately, but they will run a "normal" homelab for multiple hours. Mine will keep my 2.5kW rack running for at least 15 minutes - if your load is more like 250W (much more "normal" imo) that'll translate to around 2 hours of runtime.

Is it perfect? No, but it's more than enough to cover most brief outages, and also more than enough to allow you to shut down everything you're running gracefully, after you used it for a couple hours.

Major caveat, you'll need a 240V supply, and these guys are 6U, so not exactly tiny. If you're willing to spend a bit more money though, a smaller UPS with external battery packs is the easy plug-and-play option.

> How bottomless of a pit it becomes depends on a lot of things. It CAN become a bottomless pit if you need perfect uptime.

At the end of the day, it's very hard to argue you need perfect uptime in an extended outage (and I say this as someone with a 10kW generator and said 6kVA UPS). I need power to run my sump pumps, but that's about it - if power's been out for 12-18 hours, you better believe I'm shutting down the rack, because it's costing me a crap ton of money to keep running on fossil fuels. And in the two instances of extended power outages I've dealt with, I haven't missed it - believe it or not, there's usually more important things to worry about than your Nextcloud uptime when your power's been out for 48 hours. Like "huh, that ice-covered tree limb is really starting to get close to my roof."


This is a great example of how the homelab bottomless pit becomes normalized.

Rewiring the house for 240V supply and spending $400+500 to refurbish a second-hand UPS to keep the 2500W rack running for 15 minutes?

And then there's the electricity costs of running a 2.5kW load, and then cooling costs associated with getting that much heat out of the house constantly. That's like a space heater and a half running constantly.


Late reply I know, but I wanted to clear up that I don’t want to normalize a 2.5kW homelab. Usually when talking to people about it I refer to it as “insane.” But, having an absolutely insane amount of computer and RAM is fun (and I personally find it genuinely useful for learning, in particular in terms of engineering for massive concurrency) and I can afford the hydro, so whatever. To match the raw compute and RAM with current gen hardware, you only need maybe 500W - you’ll just be spending a shitload of money up front, instead of over time on hydro. (To match my current lab’s utilized performance, I’d need at least 2 servers, one of which with a ~threadripper 7955WX and 256GB of DDR5, and another with an Epyc 9475F and 1TB of DDR5. That would put me somewhere in the neighborhood of $35k? Ish? Costs me about $115/month to run the rack right now (cheaper than my hot tub) and cooling is free in the winter (6~7 months of the year) so the break even is loooooong term. And realistically, $100ish a month isn’t crazy, considering I self host basically everything - the only services I pay for are my VPS to run my mail server, and AWS for glacier S3 for backup-of-last-resort.

Again, not trying to normalize 2500W, most people don’t need that (and I don’t really either), but I do make good use of it.

As for “rewiring the house for 240V”, every house* in Canada and the US is delivered “split-phase” 240V (i.e. 240V with a centre tapped neutral, providing 120V between either end of the 240V phase and neutral or 240V from phase to phase), and many appliances are 240V (dryers, water heaters, stove/ranges/ovens, air conditioners). If you have a space free in your breaker panel, adding a 240V 30A circuit should cost less than $1k if you pay an electrician, and can be DIY’d for like $150 max unless you have an ancient panel that requires rare/specialty breakers or the run is very long. It’s far from the most expensive part of a homelab unless you’re running literally just a raspberry pi or something.

*barring an incredibly small exceptional percentage


I agree with you. My use case doesn't call for perfect uptime. Sounds like yours doesn't either (though you've got a pretty deep pit yourself, if 240v and generator weren't part of the sump plans and the rack just got to ride along (that's how it worked for me)).

But that doesn't mean its for us to say that someone else's use case is wrong. Some people self host a nextcloud instance and offer access to it to friends and family. What if someone else is hosting something important on there and my power is out? My concerns are elsewhere, but there's might not be.

My point was simply that different people have different use cases and different needs, and it definitely can become a bottomless pit if you let it.

For me, IPMI, PiKVM, TinyPilot, any sort of remote management interface that can power on/off a device and be auto powered on when power is available, so you can reasonably always access it, and having THAT on the UPS means that you can power down the compute remotely, and also power back up remotely. Means you never have to send someone to reboot your rack while youre out of town, you dont shred your UPS battery in minutes by having the server auto boot when power is available. Eliminates reliance on other people while youre not home :tada:

But again, not quite a bottomless pit, but there are constant layers of complexity if you want to get it right.


> though you've got a pretty deep pit yourself, if 240v and generator weren't part of the sump plans and the rack just got to ride along (that's how it worked for me)

Generator was a requirement for the sump pump. My house was basically built on a swamp, so an hour in spring without it means water in the basement. Now admittedly, I spent an extra couple hundred bucks to get a 240V generator with higher capacity than strictly necessary, but it was also roughly the minimum amount of money to spend to get one that can run on gasoline or propane, which was a requirement for me. 240V to the rack cost me $45, most of that cost being the breaker (rack is right next to the panel).

> What if someone else is hosting something important on there and my power is out? My concerns are elsewhere, but there's might not be.

I host roughly a dozen services that have around 25 users at the moment, but I charge $0 for them. I make it very clear: I have a petabyte of storage and oodles of compute, feel free to use your slice, and I’ll do my best to keep everything up and available - for my own sake (and I’ve maintained over 3 nines for 8 years!). But you as a user get no guarantee of uptime or availability, ever, and while I try very hard to backup important data (onsite, offsite split to multiple locations, and AWS S3 glacier), if I lose your data, sucks to suck. So far most people are pretty happy with this arrangement.

I couldn’t possibly fathom worrying about other people’s access to my homelab during a power outage. If I wanted to care, I’d charge for access, and I’d have a standby generator, multiple WANs, a more resilient remote KVM setup, etc. But then I’d be running a business - just a really shitty one that takes tons of my time and makes me little money. And is very illegal (for some of the services I make available, at least), instead of only slightly illegal.


For this reason I have hybrid homelab, with most stuff hosted at home, but critical things I'd need to have running are on a VM in cloud. Best of both worlds.


I mean you're right in terms of it being a demanding hobby. The question is, is it worth the switch from other services.

I have 7 computers on my self-hosted network and not all of them are on-prem. With a bit of careful planning, you can essentially create a system that will stay up regardless of local fluctuations etc. But it is a demanding hobby and if you don't enjoy the IT stuff, you'll probably have a pretty bad time doing it. For most normal consumers, self-hosting is not really an option and the isn't worth the cost of switching over. I justify it because it helps me understand how things work and tangentially helps me get better my professional skills as well.


Tailscale recently added passkey log in. Would that alleviate the SSO login?

Tailscale also has a self-hosted version I believe.


I went with home assistant and zigbee smart plugs to restart the router and the optical terminator.


Hey, if tailscale is something you are worried about. There are open source alternatives to it as well but I think if your purpose is to just port forward a simple server port, wouldn't ssh in general itself be okay with you.

You can even self host tailscale via headscale but I don't know how the experience goes but there are some genuine open source software like netbird,zerotier etc. as well

You could also if interested just go the normal wireguard route. It really depends on your use case but for you in this case, ssh use case seems normal.

You could even use this with termux in android + ssh access via dropbear I think if you want. Tailscale is mainly for convenience tho and not having to deal with nats and everything

But I feel like your home server might be behind a nat and in that case, what I recommend you to do is probably A) run it in tor or https://gitlab.com/CGamesPlay/qtm which uses iroh's instance but you can self host it too or B (recommended): Get a unlimited traffic cheap vps (I recommend Upcloud,OVH,hetzner) which would cost around 3-4$ per month and then install something like remotemoe https://github.com/fasmide/remotemoe or anything similar to it effectively like a proxy.

Sorry if I went a little overkill tho lol. I have played too much on these things so I may be overarchitecting stuff but if you genuinely want self hosting to the extreme self, tor.onion's or i2p might benefit ya but even buying a vps can be a good step up

> I was in another country when there was a power outage at home. My internet went down, the server restart but couldn't reconnect anymore because the optical network router also had some problems after the power outage. I could ask my folks to restart, and turn on off things but nothing more than that. So I couldn't reach my Nextcloud instance and other stuff. Maybe an uninterruptible power supply could have helped but the more I was thinking about it after just didn't really worth the hassle anymore. Add a UPS okay. But why not add a dual WAN failover router for extra security if the internet goes down again? etc. It's a bottomless pit (like most hobbies tbh)

Laptops have in built ups and are cheap, Laptops and refurbished servers are good entry point imo and I feel like sure its a bottomless pit but the benefits are well worth it and at a point you have to look at trade offs and everything and personally laptops/refurbished or resale servers are that for me. In fact, I used to run a git server on an android tab for some time but been too lazy to figure out if I want it to charge permanently or what


Thanks for the shout-out! If you have any experiential reports using QTM, I'd love to hear them!


Oh yeah this is a really funny story considering what thread we are on, but I remember asking chatgpt or claude or gemini or anything xD to make QTM work and none of them could figure out

But I think in the end what ended up working was my frustration took over and I just copy pasted the commands from readme and if I remember correctly, they just worked.

This is really ironical considering on what thread we are on but in the end, Good readme's make self hosting on a home server easier and fun xD

(I don't exactly remember chatgpt's conversations, perhaps they might have helped a bit or not, but I am 99% sure that it was your readme which ended up helping and chatgpt etc. in fact took an hour or more and genuinely frustrated me from what I remember vaguely)

I hope QTM reaches more traction. Its build on solid primitives.

One thing I genuinely want you to perhaps take a look at if possible is creating an additional piece of software or adding the functionality where instead of the careful dance that we have to make it work (like we have to send two large data pieces from two computers, I had to use some hacky solution like piping server or wormhole itself for it)

So what I am asking is if there could be a possibility that you can make the initial node pairing (ticket?) [Sorry, I forgot the name of primitive] between A and B, you use wormhole itself and now instead of these two having to send large chunks of data between each other, they can now just send 6 words or similar

Wormhole: https://github.com/magic-wormhole/magic-wormhole

I even remember building some of my own CLI for something liek this and using chatgpt to build it xD but in the end gave up because I wasn't familiar with the codebase or how to make these two work together but I hope that you can add it. I sincerely hope so.

Another minor suggestion I feel like giving is to please have asciinema demo. I will create an asciinema patch if you want between two computers but a working demo gif from 0 -> running really really would've helped me save some/few hours

QTM has lots of potential. Iroh is so sane, it can run directly on top of ipv4 itself and talk directly if possible but it can even break through nats and you can even self host the middle part itself. I had thought about building such a project when I had first discovered QTM and you can just imagine my joy when I discovered QTM from one of your comments a long time ago for what its worth

Wishing the best of luck of your project! The idea is very fascinating. I would appreciate a visual demo a lot though and I hope we can discuss more!

Edit: I remember that qtm docs had this issue of where they really felt complex for me personally when all I wanted was one computer port mapped to another computer port and I think what helped in the end was the 4th comment if I remember correctly, I might have used LLM assistance or not or if it helped or not, I genuinely don't remember but it definitely took me an hour or two to figure things out but its okay since I still feel like the software is definitely positive and this might have been a skill issue from my side but I just want if you can add asciinema docs, I can't stress it enough if possible on how much it can genuinely help an average person to figure out the product.

(Slowly move towards the complex setups with asciinema demos for each of them if you wish)

Once again good luck! I can't stress qtm and I still strongly urge everyone to try qtm once https://gitlab.com/CGamesPlay/qtm since its highly relevant to the discussion


You aren't actually supposed to ever need to deal with tickets manually, unless you are trying to get a tunnel between two machines and neither can SSH into the other. It could be streamlined with something like Magic Wormhole, though. I'll add that to the backlog and see if there's interest. The normal way is to use SSH / docker exec / any remote shell to let QTM swap the tickets over it.

I've added an asciinema to the README now <https://asciinema.org/a/z2cdsoVDVJu0gIGn>, showing the manual connection steps. Thanks for the kind words. Hope you find it useful!


well my use case is the fact of connecting two servers behind nat. If I were to be able to gain ssh lets say, then I could've simply port forwarded in the first place.

Wow the asciinema is really good and very professional, thanks for creating it, I found it very helpful (in the sense that if I ever were to repeat my experiment, now I got your asciinema server) and I hope more people use it

> It could be streamlined with something like Magic Wormhole, though. I'll add that to the backlog and see if there's interest

To be really honest, its not that big of a deal considering one can do that on their own but I just had this idea for my own convenience when I was using QTM

I really like QTM a lot! Thanks for building it once again, I would try to integrate it more often and give you more feedback when possible from now.


Starlink backup sounds fun now!


Way too expensive for that imo (but then again might as well just go all in). Probably a 5G connection is more than enough


$5/mo is too expensive for starlink backup?


Honestly I think that there must be adapters which can use unlimited 5g sim's data plans as fallback network or perhaps (even primary?)

They would be cheaper than starlink fwiw and most connections can be robust usually.

That being said, one can use tailscale or cloudflare tunnels to expose the server even if its behind nat which you mention in your original comment that you might be against at for paranoid reasons and thats completely fine but there are ways to go do that if you want as well which I have talked about it on the other comment I have written here in-depth.


Some SOHO branch office routers like Cisco ISR models can take cellular dongles and/or SIM. Drivers for supported models are baked into ROM and everything works through CLI.


man I have this vague memory that I was at a neighbour's house and we were all kids and internet wasn't that widespread (I was really young) and I remember that they had this dongle in which they inserted an sim card in for network access. This is why this idea has always persisted in my head in the first place.

I don't know what's the name of dongle though, it was similar to those sd card to usb thing ykwim, I'd appreciate it if someone could help find this too if possible

but also yeah your point is also fascinating as well, y'know another benefit of doing this is that atleast in my area, 5g (500-700mbps) is really cheap (10-15$) with unlimited bandwidth per month and on the ethernet side of things I get 10x less bandwidth (40-80mbps) so much so that me and my brother genuinely thought of this idea

except that we thought that instead of buying a router like this, we use an old phone device and insert sim in it and access router through that way.


I would do this on OPNSense - with a separate WLAN. Fairly easy to do.


One more list for the privileged who can travel around the world


I think some people might be surprised to find one of these close to home. For example, I only discovered the Connections Museum by chance (they were manning a booth at another more well known museum).


I’m not sure it’s the author’s fault that there are world class museums all over the world.


Oh look, how cute -- a European calling someone 'privileged'.


>MonoGame is free to use on all platforms from the public repository, but the code for supporting console platforms is only accessible to authorized console developers.

>These platforms are provided as private code repositories that add integrations with the console vendor's APIs and platform-specific documentation.

https://docs.monogame.net/articles/console_access.html

How can something be open source and closed at the same time? Is this basically MIT license? (Project page says Microsoft Public license)


In the same page,

> The MonoGame Foundation cannot directly give anyone access to the private console repositories without prior approval from the vendor due to NDA requirements set out by each vendor.

Blame here goes to Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft (though I'm not so sure about Microsoft)

This also applies to Godot, another open source game engine, which doesn't have any code for console support on its upstream repository.


> though I'm not so sure about Microsoft

GDK is open-source (https://github.com/microsoft/gdk), but to be fair there is a possibility that there are some parts under NDA.


It's a common business model - have an open source core, but have separate closed source extensions to support enterprise features.


>It's a common business model

But no one is paying MonoGame in this case? Maybe I'm just thick but X developer pays for MS/Sony/Nintendo to become authorized > and then they ask permission to use MonoGame per the page.

1. Apply to the vendor developer program (required for publishing).

2. Through the program, request access to the MonoGame console repositories

MonoGame gets nothing in the end.


Implying that makes a bad season better. When you watch thrash settings doesn't really matter


I don't think it implies that at all.

It is perfectly understandable that the people who really care about how their work was colour-graded, then suggest you turn off all the features that shit all over that work. Similarly for the other settings he mentions.

Don't get me wrong, I haven't seen the first season, so won't watch this, but creators / artists do and should care about this stuff.

Of course, people can watch things in whatever dreaded settings they want, but lots of TVs default to bad settings, so awareness is good.


>I think it's safe to say that Valve is about to win the next console generation.

For that they need to outsell the Switch 2. 10m units in 6 months.

Good luck with that.


Nintendo is in its own category in which the other competitor is also Valve. For now Nintendo is winning there.


I love great graphics but , Nintendo carved a nice big niche out for themselves by recognizing the constant drive for best graphics is a bit of rat race.


Nintendo has a tiny library.

Steam does not.


Nintendo has Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Donkey Kong, Starfox, Pokémon, and a few other less super famous and internationally known IP franchises. The core games and their spinoffs make more games than most children can reasonably expected to play through childhood and early adolescence. That the machine then collects dust doesn’t hurt Nintendo because they already sold it.

Yes Steam has huge library (my ‘want to play’ list is over 100 titles at this point) full of games of all genres, qualities, and niches. But Nintendo has more than enough to do what they have done for years, i.e. sit tight on their beloved IP and dole it out at varying levels of quality on strictly low end hardware and watch their earning go up.


Steam Deck has a tiny install base.

Switch 2 does not.

I'm mostly a PC gamer but let's be real here.


Though, to be fair, my kids steal my Steam Deck from me more often than I try to get the Switch from them. The family share features of the Switch leave a lot to be desired.


That doesn't change the reality that the Steam Deck is a niche device.

I hope that changes though.


People rarely buy a platform for the platform, they buy the platform to do the thing they want to do. A game is just a genre of software.

It is far, far better to have tons of high quality software available for a platform, than to have an amazing platform, but a limited choice of software.


Very true, but that tiny library happens to occupy like 80% of the biggest IP.


They have enough first party games which only release on their hardware that people are willing to buy a Switch for nintendo games, and another gaming device for everything else.


Sad part is that I would be willing to pay a substantial mark up to be able to play some of those first party titles on my PC, but since my kids have a Switch I just settle for using it. So even if I don’t think I’d buy a console just for their games, I’m gonna end up buying it anyway and Nintendo still wins.


Many times what happens is that people buy the Switch for Nintendo games, but since third parties also publish there they just buy games there anyway.

Funnily enough, I own a Switch and a PS5. I mostly buy and play on the Switch while the PS5 main function is getting covered in a thin layer of dust.


Or the many people like myself who are willing to buy a Switch for Nintendo games and that's their only console.


I'm on a Switch and will not move because of the "Game Key Card" bullshit where you have a card but still don't get the files you need to play them game.

However, Pokemon guarantees a certain amount of Switch 2 sales--Pokemon ZA sold about 6 million units.


That's not an argument in the Steam Machine's case as you have the same situation there (even worse because you can't resell your games).


You aren't wrong.

However, the single digital service that hasn't killed my digital library at some point is Steam. Games that I bought many years ago are still fine. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all killed digital games that I bought.

That having been said: I've transferred a lot of my purchasing to GoG. Steam doesn't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.


>Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all killed digital games that I bought.

No? All stores are still online. Some don't allow buying new games anymore (DSi Shop, Wii Shop, PS3 store for example) but redownloading still works.


The elephant in the room: "will this game run on my Steam Machine?"

This is really the part a lot of people don't understand and not a qestion you even have to ask when you buy/download a game for a console.

Some of the biggest games right now like BF6, COD, or Fortnite, League of Legends, chinese gacha games won't run on this. That excludes a massive part of the market, many of whom would be the exact audience for a simpler, more console-like PC experience. There's also no guarantee that future AAA games will be compatible with this day one (8GB VRAM is very limiting already).

Yeah yeah indies but if people want to play X then offering them Z is not an option.

This will be DOA anything over $500


This is true also for steam deck but it’s a success anyway. COD, Fortnite, LoL players can stay on windows. I’m happy to play newest indie game on my Linux machine


>but it’s a success anyway

That's also debatable. Switch 2 sold 10m units in 6 months compared to the Steam Deck's 4 million in 3 years ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Steam Deck is niche even among the gaming crowd.

>COD, Fortnite, LoL players can stay on windows. I’m happy to play newest indie game on my Linux machine

This is the mindset that makes the Steam Machine DOA if not priced correctly. No one will pay $800 just to play Hollow Knight in 4k


Worth considering that Nintendo has a massive library of proprietary games they themselves produce (Mario, Pokemon, etc) that Steam does not have.

People buy Nintendo products to play Nintendo games.


Success is relative. The Steam Deck is only unsuccessful if you consider the goal of the device to be "outsell Nintendo". I would argue 4 million units is not merely a success, but a massive success.


For an interesting comparison, the PS Vita did about 4 million in the first year.


The Steam Deck also had no marketing and is not sold in retail stores. It's also been a success in kicking off a whole product category of handheld PCs, of which most games will be bought on Steam.


Good thing Valve is not a publicly traded company unlike Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft.

> This is the mindset that makes the Steam Machine DOA if not priced correctly. No one will pay $800 just to play Hollow Knight in 4k

I will pay that money to finish up my backlog of games on Steam. I already pay that much for Steam Deck anyway.


You can likely install Windows on Steam Machine if you so wish, and then it would actually be a fairly competent mini PC while having great and silent cooling. However, I suppose most casual gamers aren't savvy enough to tinker and install their own OS.


Perhaps. I hope that they help kill these predatory mega-franchises.


This is awesome.

My current setup (sorry Airbus not Boeing) is more modest and probably I'd enjoy to upgrade it even more but after point it really does become a bottomless pit where the endgame will be buying a decommissioned plane lol

https://i.imgur.com/5uGHvz5.jpeg


This is awesome. Hey big time flight sim fan here. How can I DM you to learn your setup.


I can give you a list

Flight control https://www.thrustmaster.com/products/tca-captain-pack-x-air...

Flight control panel https://eu.winwingsim.com/view/goods-details.html?id=925

Light switches https://www.puairkorea.com/product/pu-autopilot-addon/

MCDU https://eu.winwingsim.com/view/goods-details.html?id=945

Rudders https://www.thrustmaster.com/products/tpr-thrustmaster-pendu...

Airbus Fenix remote on iPad https://fenixsim.com/a320/ + https://support.fenixsim.com/hc/en-us/articles/1245845642830...

16 key keyboard from Aliexpress, there are a lot of sellers

The rest are a beefy gaming PC

If you don't get the rudders then the whole thing (minus the gaming PC and iPad) can be bought for less than 1000€, even less on sale or second hand.


Here’s another one for A320 - https://youtu.be/rWaAcCikZdE

I came across it a few days and have been mesmerized with it ever since


There's a convenience store in Sydney, which has a full blown A320 flight simulator in the back, behind all the shelves of snacks. The owner of the store is a migrant to Australia, who is (was?) waiting for his overseas aircraft maintenance engineer qualifications to be locally recognised. He's turned the simulator into part of his business.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/from-cairo-international...

https://sydneyflightsimulator.com.au/

Edit: Based on the street address, it might have moved out of the convenience store into its own premises since the article was written?

Further edit: Sadly, it seems as if the owner, Ahmed Abdelwahed, might have been deported. Hopefully the deportation never went ahead, or he made it back into Australia on another try.

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/arabic/en/podcast-episode/br...


There’s one at Delhi airport as well

https://aviator1903.com/


Shit this is so sick man. Do you work as a pilot?


No not at all, just always loved video games and especially simulators like flight sims so one summer I decided to finally build a more immersive setup


Great job! Thanks for sharing.


'Yer a cuq, Harry


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