I'm sorry, it's hard to say anything good about a project that brings nothing new to the table while desperately trying to replace a well-established industry standard. Such attempts look annoying at best and irritating at most. At the very least the person behind the project could have been more humble in pushing it, and instead of presenting it as a "git killer" causing everyone only headache he could have had 1) polished it 2) pointed out precisely what "problems" with git his project solves. None of those were clearly stated; instead, the shared page is simply a shameless plug for wasting everyone's time.
Okay, next time I'm simply going to ignore it, but allowing this kind of posting only works against the HN. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but even the original post title was annoying enough that someone from the moderators had to replace it.
We've banned this account. Looking at the account's history going back more than two years, several of the comments are abusive and inflammatory, which is clearly in breach of the guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Please avoid these kinds of sneers that characterize the whole community as being united in “hate” or “love” for any particular company or technology.
HN is a diverse global community and its views about most topics form a normal distribution, and most people here are able to form nuanced opinions that consider the positives and negatives in all these topics. This kind of “very funny” swipe relies on a caricature that's easy to portray if you focus on the loudest voices on one side of any discussion but falls away if you make the effort to read the discussions in depth.
The guidelines ask us to avoid being curmudgeonly. I'm sure you didn't mean to come across that way, but could you try not to make Hacker News the kind of place that responds with “meh” to a successful space mission?
My pessimism comes from a hindsight that the Apollo missions, while amazing failed to create the future they promised. Looking at how the missions were designed, the political focus, the academic infighting of NASA scientists trying to keep niche research funded.
I fail to see how this time, the same strategy will produce a different result.
I also don't expect benevolent billionaires to fill that either. I hope I would in their place, but I'll not likely get the chance.to find out.
To end on an optimistic note, tang and Velcro are pretty dope.
I blame the "space race" narrative - it made everything unsustainably expensive just to beat the goal of landing on the Moon by the end of the decade and before the Soviets. That also made the program even more dependant on political whims and easy target for budget cuts in the Vietnam era.
I recommend looking into the space flight plans from the pre Apollo - while tere were bonkers ideas like Project Horizon, most of the plans sounded quite sensible, with incremental building of space infrastructure and emphasis on cost and reusability (in the 1960s).
Of course when it became a race all the sustainability and infrastructure went out of the window and got sacrificed in the name of speed. :P
I am sorry. I understand that many of us are heavily invested financially or emotionally into AI but the key insight about OpenClaw remains the same that it really isn't much useful beyond maybe a daily news summary. Nothing that cannot be done otherwise.
It’s a lame trope that people only comment favorably about things because they have a financial incentive or some other pathological reason to do so, and for that reason it’s against the guidelines.
I think it broadly speaks to the issue of llm’s in general.
People have to actively interact with these things to get outputs of them. Why can’t they do it passively?
Because on the surface LLM’s seem intelligent. But they’re not. They need constant attention to ensure they are doing what one wants and not going off track. I experienced this myself many times - the variance in the output can be jarring at times. From surprisingly good to absolutely disappointing.
Why hasn’t customer service over the web/telephone become completely autonomous or at least partially via llm’s? We have all this talk about agentic programming and yet much of the world carries on as it was.
Interesting. I don’t think this variance problem is going away. It’s a different kind of variance than humans are used to when dealing with other humans.
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