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Most of those things you listed are dubious claims at best. However, if you promise you're in good faith, pointing out the crimes of one group disproportionately is a pretty bigoted thing to do. Breitbart had (maybe still does) a section called "Black Crime", in which they exclusively had stories about crimes involving African American people. Hitler's regime would put out news bulletins highlighting crimes committed by Jews. When you focus exclusively on one group and they bad things they're doing, it leaves the impression that these groups are disproportionately committing crimes, making them out to be worse than they really are.


I think it's murkier when one group commits a disproportionate amount of crime - accurate/percise coverage might look disproportionate even though it's actually representative.

I agree that pointing things out can be bigoted, but to the extent that politics addresses questions between friend and foe, it's natural that political expression is bigoted. Feminism is inherently bigoted to the extent that pointing out male dominance is important to the feminist perspective, but I don't think that feminists should be censored just because their discussions might offend people.


"I think it's murkier when one group commits a disproportionate amount of crime - accurate/percise coverage might look disproportionate even though it's actually representative."

You're gonna have to prove that's the case. In just about every study, it's been shown that, no, the crime rates are not disproportionately higher.

"Feminism is inherently bigoted"

No, it's not. Not in the slightest. Wanting equality only looks bigoted to those who benefit from the inequality.


>In just about every study, it's been shown that, no, the crime rates are not disproportionately higher.

Are we even talking about the same thing? There are absolutely groups that commit more crimes than others. Do you honestly need a citation for a claim like, "young men commit more crimes than elderly women?"

>No, it's not. Not in the slightest. Wanting equality only looks bigoted to those who benefit from the inequality.

Feminism isn't bigoted for wanting equality, Feminism is bigoted (but probably correctly so) for highlighting men as the reason there isn't equality. It gets back to my central claim that claims can be bigoted and true/valid/accurate.


IME, much of feminism focuses on patriarchy as a set of structures as the problem, not men, and that the patriarchy is neither exclusively supported by men and their actions nor exclusively harmful to women.


"Are we even talking about the same thing? There are absolutely groups that commit more crimes than others. Do you honestly need a citation for a claim like, "young men commit more crimes than elderly women?""

You should be able to cite something for that claim, yes. But you know we're not talking about those kinds of groups; we are talking about the ones that are highlighted on sites like Breitbart.

"Feminism is bigoted (but probably correctly so) for highlighting men as the reason there isn't equality."

Feminism doesn't highlight men. Feminism highlights power structures, many of which are put in place by certain men.


You're demanding that I defend claims I never made / claims you've accused me of making. I'm not going to do it and I'm not going to respond to your messages.




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