It's typical in a systemd discussion that a link dump to broken stuff appears
Please help me understand this line of reasoning. Someone has a list of reasons as to why they believe systemd is not a good fit for them, and something else works better. They get told "prove it isn't a good fit for you". They prove this with some line of argumentation. They get told "that is your opinion only, and that doesn't count". They provide links to show many other users have the same issues, and they feel these issues have not been given due consideration. They get told "typical systemd haters, they always provide a link dump with broken stuff, it doesn't mean anything"
This has pretty much become the default template for the systemd pro/con arguments, and is unwinnable. FWIW, my problem with systemd is that it broke the concept of free choice in my environment. It was harshly shoved down everyone's throat, through politics rather then the usual meritocratic methods. I appreciate that this was a commercially advantageous position for the various distro maintainers, which lead me to cancel all my (thousands) of distro support agreements.
It is the political approach that was taken that gives rise to serious suspicions for me. If the system cannot stand on its' own feet from the meritocratic perspective, and needs to resort to all kinds of political games to gain a substantive foothold, my default position is not one of trust.
The "la la la i-can't-hear-you" systemd fanboy troupe response whenever someone attempts to make a well-supported argument against systemd only fuels my distrust of the whole systemd story.
As I mentioned, I vote with my feet and wallet. I use Alpine wherever possible.
Please help me understand this line of reasoning. Someone has a list of reasons as to why they believe systemd is not a good fit for them, and something else works better. They get told "prove it isn't a good fit for you". They prove this with some line of argumentation. They get told "that is your opinion only, and that doesn't count". They provide links to show many other users have the same issues, and they feel these issues have not been given due consideration. They get told "typical systemd haters, they always provide a link dump with broken stuff, it doesn't mean anything"
This has pretty much become the default template for the systemd pro/con arguments, and is unwinnable. FWIW, my problem with systemd is that it broke the concept of free choice in my environment. It was harshly shoved down everyone's throat, through politics rather then the usual meritocratic methods. I appreciate that this was a commercially advantageous position for the various distro maintainers, which lead me to cancel all my (thousands) of distro support agreements.
It is the political approach that was taken that gives rise to serious suspicions for me. If the system cannot stand on its' own feet from the meritocratic perspective, and needs to resort to all kinds of political games to gain a substantive foothold, my default position is not one of trust.
The "la la la i-can't-hear-you" systemd fanboy troupe response whenever someone attempts to make a well-supported argument against systemd only fuels my distrust of the whole systemd story.
As I mentioned, I vote with my feet and wallet. I use Alpine wherever possible.