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Clever, touching and funny ... but I'm not sure that "a jar of chlorauric acid, formed by dissolving the gold from two Nobels in aqua regia" quite counts as "Nobel prizes" any more, never mind "in plain sight".


It's more like hiding the gold from Nobel prizes from the Nazis in plain sight. Still, it's a very interesting way to hide gold that most non-chemists would never think of.

But it does give an interesting exercise: how else could you hide gold in a chemistry lab in such a way that at least the gold is retrievable? I can imagine submerging the prizes in various dangerous chemicals, but getting them clean enough to be safe afterward would be worrisome.


if I was in that situation I would have likely just melted the gold and poured it into a hallowed out brick or something..


LFTR should be worth all the prizes and money :) (Wigner and Teller were more hawkish)

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LFTR


The Nobel prize is not the medal or the gold, it's the honor.

They saved the gold, but the prize did not need saving.


...look at all the Peace in Afghanistan and Iraq. Pre-emptive war along with a pre-emptive prize. How encouraging for peace.


Counting "Nobel prizes" can go a long way[1]: if somebody was on a ship from Stockholm, and would be smart enough to win several Nobel prizes (on poker from drunk passengers)?

[1] actually, it is from a novel https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Rejto_Jeno


Poetic license, ever hear of it?


Unfortunately, there's a sizable segment of the HN crowd that foams at the mouth to practice pedantry.


Computers themselves are very pedantic, so we wouldn't be very good at using them if we weren't good at being technically correct. The compiler won't forgive you for missing a semicolon or mismatched parentheses.

So I strongly suspect that our programming ability is related to our capacity for being pedantic, as annoying as that may be socially.


The capacity for being pedantic isn't the socially annoying part; rather, it is the curious unwillingness of some nerds to exercise restraint that is.


So I strongly suspect that our programming ability is related to our capacity for being pedantic, as annoying as that may be socially.

Just like all tall people are good at basketball? Being a pedantic nit has nothing to do with one's ability to write code.

Regardless, this is a pretty cool story.


"capacity for being pedantic"

I doubt one would get very far in any kind of serious debugging session without the ability to be pedantic. It doesn't mean we can't judge the time and place for it.


But people that are good at basketball do tend to be tall, and people that are good at programming quite possibly tend to be pedantic nits.


The inverse isn't always true. Correlation isnt causation, more than two points to a line, etc etc.


I never said that one caused the other, only that pedantry is necessary when writing correct computer programs.

Huge bugs can come from small mistakes. The bug that tripped up Colin and ended up as a story on HN a while back was nothing more than a missing ++ in his code. Yet that tiny mistake screwed up the security of his cryptography.


They literally foam at the mouth? That sounds implausible. You should edit your comment.


They weren't actually foaming at the mouth, they were literally foaming at the mouth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ly1UTgiBXM [NSFW/profanity]


Why are there two comments essentially saying this? My comment never included that word.


I take it you think I was "foaming at the mouth to practise pedantry". Well, I certainly wasn't foaming, and it doesn't seem to me especially pedantic to want to distinguish between "hiding X in plain sight" and "doing something else that enables X to remain hidden", however clever that something-else may be -- because real Purloined-Letter-style "hiding in plain sight" is a different sort of trick, exploiting different human failings.

Suppose, for instance, that instead of dissolving the Nobels de Hevesy had incorporated them into something that looked like a satirical picture mocking von Laue and Franck, and hung it on the wall. And suppose that had worked, in that the Nazi authorities never noticed that the picture had real Nobel prizes in it. That, to my mind, would have been clever-and-touching-and-funny in a different way to what de Hevesy actually did. Do you really think it's mouth-foamingly pedantic to want to have different terminology available for describing those different things?


I'm sorry for the harshness of the earlier reply, but yes, I imagine that it was a kind of eager, if sincere, pedantry. I get where you are coming from, and again, the harshness was more aimed at the community's collective tendency.


Literally?


I lost my poetic licence for taking a caesura too fast and failing to stop at an enjambment whilst under the influence of Auden.

Never again.

- Stephen Fry




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