@soufron, I agree with you.
It is shameful, to call uprising of suppressed -- against systemic unfairness -- as 'Telegram revolution'.
This is akin to stealing valor (basically stealing medals and pretending to be the honorable).
This type of valor stealing, is also happening when people call US border detention facilities as 'Nazi concentration camps'. For people whose family members went through a Nazi concentration camp, hearing such a comparing is painful.
For Byelorussians whose livers and kidneys were raptured by the beatings, whose loved ones are imprisoned -- hearing Telegram marketing spin is painful, like when their valor, their sacrifice is stolen.
Yes of course, without recording technology, in my view, we would not have successful type of investigative journalism that project Veritas has delivered.
Or, without cell phones, the ability of people of Belarus to share images of brutality with the world.
Technology, is helping to concentrate the will power of the masses, against well funded machines of system oppressions.
But the will of the people, their sacrifices, their sufferings -- is the driving force -- not Telegram
> This type of valor stealing, is also happening when people call US border detention facilities as 'Nazi concentration camps'. For people whose family members went through a Nazi concentration camp, hearing such a comparing is painful.
I was with you until this comment.
What the Jews went through is horrible beyond words.
What immigrant families are going through is also horrible.
They may not be systematically murdered like the Jews being sent to gas chambers, and they may not be sterilized like the Uighurs, but they are still suffering. Families are being separated forever. Lost children will never be given back to their parents. That's not okay.
Don't trivialize human suffering. Condemn it. Don't turn it into an analogy where you can praise those that suffered the most. Who are you to know how any of this feels? We're not trying to win some contest here - the result we're after is the end of suffering.
Calling a detention facility a Nazi concentration camp is not the same as calling a grassroots effort a "telegram revolution". One is making an analogy to history, the other is using a vapid phrase to market a mobile app.
In fact it is a Telegram revolution, because Telegram is the tool that is allowing this rage to become organized. That doesn't minimize anything about the protesting or the political situation itself. That's not marketing, it's just recognizing the tool.
> Yes of course, without recording technology, in my view, we would not have successful type of investigative journalism that project Veritas has delivered.
Your "successful investigative journalism" is more widely recognized as a "right-wing disinformation outfit". O'Keefe and his organization have been repeatedly shown to have fabricated stories, solicited fraudulent activity, and deceptively edited recordings. Their activities are politically motivated propaganda, not journalism.
Who ran a blog and youtube channel, recording, often without the knowledge of the person he was talking too.
It is the same style of investigative journalism as Project Veritas, O'Keefe are using to show the true colors of the people, actions and ideologies hiding, conveniently, behind a banner of a 'legitimate' political party (who also, unlike Lukashenko, have access to far greater resources, including Wikipedia to 'clean up')
I hoped to get across 3 points with my previous post:
a) what's happening in Belarus is systemic, medieval-style suppression of the populous, voter abuse, and political imprisonments.
And the argument that used by Lukashenko, is the same as @dukswuff is used against Project Veritas...
b) One of the imprisoned leaders, exposed the methods of the tyranny, using the same approach as investigative journalism (involving recordings) as Project Veritas, O'Keefe is doing in US.
Technology is important there, but not more or equal to the heroism of the people doing it.
And, at least for me, the more dare the retribution, the more heroic actions are of the journalist.
c) Telegram marketing spin manipulating words, trying to assigning the heroism and suffering of the victims -- to their platform.
Just like some in US are using heroism and suffering of the victims in Nazi concentration camps (who did not choose to go there), equating that to people crossing US border illegally and being detained.
This is stealing of valor.
It is being perpetrated in western media daily for many years, and often spills over to events like Democratic National Convention.
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I am also going add one more point.
The statements Lukashenko is making about Byelorussian's duty to support him, so not dissimilar to the argument Biden is making about the duty of African-Americans to to support his candidacy.
This is akin to stealing valor (basically stealing medals and pretending to be the honorable).
This type of valor stealing, is also happening when people call US border detention facilities as 'Nazi concentration camps'. For people whose family members went through a Nazi concentration camp, hearing such a comparing is painful.
For Byelorussians whose livers and kidneys were raptured by the beatings, whose loved ones are imprisoned -- hearing Telegram marketing spin is painful, like when their valor, their sacrifice is stolen.
Yes of course, without recording technology, in my view, we would not have successful type of investigative journalism that project Veritas has delivered.
Or, without cell phones, the ability of people of Belarus to share images of brutality with the world.
Technology, is helping to concentrate the will power of the masses, against well funded machines of system oppressions.
But the will of the people, their sacrifices, their sufferings -- is the driving force -- not Telegram