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Sounds like "be glad they gave you some bones from the table" instead, you know, the company providing the actual proper means for users to reliably run whatever on the hardware they bought, not just the manufacturers blessed OS.

Sometimes I wonder if it really makes sense to spend so much time to do the work Apple should have done in the first place & with no guarantee it will even work after a firmware upgrade or on the next model.

Spending the same effort on more open platforms or open hardware efforts might be wiser in the long term.



On one hand I agree with you, on the other hand I'm happy they are taking the effort to do this because it will reduce e-waste. When those MacBooks no longer receive updates, they can get a second life thanks to this work.


Yes, I did say in my comment that I don’t think they deserve special praise for making a computer a computer. I have complicated feelings about it all too. On one hand, I wish my Apple devices were more open: I think the App Store tax is anticompetitive abuse of a monopoly. I have an expectation of actually owning the things I buy, and I don’t feel that way about the software ecosystem on my iPhone.

On the other hand, I adore the security and cross-application sandboxing that iOS brings. I wish Linux had more ways to sandbox applications from one another - since it’s clear that “trust all computer programs” is an insanely idiotic policy in 2024. And “implicitly trust all code” is de facto how Linux, npm, cargo, etc all run today.

My comment was in response to the idea that the speakers are maliciously designed to hurt asahi Linux, which just seems obviously wrong given how much power Apple has over their devices. They could completely kill asahi Linux with a flick of the wrist if they ever want to. There’s no way that’s the reason for their complex speaker setup.


My comment was in response to the idea that the speakers are maliciously designed to hurt asahi Linux, which just seems obviously wrong given how much power Apple has over their devices. They could completely kill asahi Linux with a flick of the wrist if they ever want to. There’s no way that’s the reason for their complex speaker setup.

If they killed off asahi Linux, they would face far more backlash than if they just made it harder for them (with ostensible reasons why), while keeping it strictly worse than macOS.




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