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I'm reminded of similarly useless "sustainable cardboard furniture" that came out about a decade ago.

On the positive side, kudos to whomever in marketing/pr at the design firm got this useless product so much press.

This is just the sort of "win" that a design consulting shop loves to have for actual briefs that lead to real moving-the-needle revenue. One example would be SmartDesign's modular slip-on "S-Grips" that led to the iconic vegetable peeler that then bled into the "design language" of every product at OXO.



Didn't know about the SmartDesign/OXO vegetable peeler, very interesting rabbit hole to go down.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90239156/the-untold-story-of-the...


Indeed, it's an interesting rabbit hole!

I liked the part where they were looking for someone to manufacture the handles, and the Japanese machinist said "If he could make it, I can make it!".

Indeed, having gone down the rabbit hole of machining (both to see if it would be a viable hobby and if it could even be a career), this was the attitude of the shop teacher: "if you can think it, you can probably make it". I am far more surprised that neither the American nor the Taiwanese manufacturers said this. Then again, perhaps it was because management didn't talk to the guys who made things!

(Now that I think of it, had they done that, perhaps they would have gotten the answer "We can do it, but the fins will wear down the tool too fast, at least until we can figure out a better material for the tools!" instead of "Nope, we can't do that!")


This is a bit of a random place to mention it, but while I very much like OXO goods, IKEA makes the best (in my opinion) potato peeler for $5 - cheaper than anything OXO makes: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/ikea-365-vaerdefull-potato-peel...


Brilliant write up. I remember using the old ones, and only last year found the oxo model. truly amazing. Many important lessons in product design in that article; with the most important in the last sentence - it has to work!


I think you meant to respond to your grandparent https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42686370, not your parent https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42686583.


Why are they peeling those beautiful golden potatoes? Skin is the best part.


I've tried swivelling peelers a few times and every time I return to my forty year old Lancashire peeler with its blade held on the plastic handle with tightly wrapped cotton string. A bit like this one: https://www.pattersons.co.uk/lancashire-peeler.html

0.96 GBP including VAT.

I had to replace the string this year though.


that's something i never understood: why do they sell peelers with a movable part? like we are meant to peel in curves and expect the knife to follow the curve beautifully? the fixed ones are easier to use and easier to clean!


The hinge allows you to peel in both directions (i.e. forwards and backwards across your potato/carrot/etc. without lifting the peeler.) It also means it can track a rough surface more easily. I haven't had any issues with the hinge, and I use a dishwasher for cleaning - what issues have you run into?


i'm almost never using a movable one but:

- on the practicity: i can do exactly what i want with a fixed one, without risk for the blade to slip

- small dust and bits tend to gather at the junctions and sit there


Which also makes it usable for left-handers.


The movable blade makes peeling oddly shaped veggies or fruits so much smoother


I find the movable ones cut a thinner peel, probably the blade is held at a more optimal angle if it can find its own position, or maybe my particular movable one is just better-made than my fixed one.


For produce with a tougher skin than innards, the blade will deflect off the inside of the skin and steer itself along that interface.


Fair enough, I don't usually encounter that. I'd probably use a regular knife in that case.


The ikea one mentions peeling asparagus. Is that a thing?


Yes, sometimes, especially on larger spears. The skin can get tough and/or stringy and some folks really don't like it.


Yes, not the wild asparagus but the ones you can shop have thick hard stalks at the base!


Cardboard furniture brought to mind Frank Gehry:

https://www.vitra.com/en-us/product/wiggle?srsltid=AfmBOooT-...

Expressing patronage of sustainability is emotionally equivalent to expressing patronage of artistry. Functionally a $10 chair from Goodwill will support a person equally well (and also be an expression of patronage for a person with options).


> I'm reminded of similarly useless "sustainable cardboard furniture" that came out about a decade ago.

Apparently no one learned their lesson, because the cardboard olympic village beds were also (allegedly) pretty terrible.


Some say Teenage Engineering products are mostly PR to promote their design studio (which is contracted by e.g. Ikea). Because indeed, value for money is not there. Or the product itself is preposterous (like their voice recorder).


MUJI used to have lots of that (20-25yrs ago). Shelves made from cardboard tubes, etc... You could tell, one bump and it would be destroyed. I think they got rid of most of them.


Only way to get cardboard to work in furniture and such is to laminate all sides... And even then it is only acceptable. Albeit very light.


I had a log seat style cardboard furniture for years, it was great when I needed something light but capable to hold stuff.


indeed useless, you can use arbitrary anything - a book, a notebook, the earpods, the wallet -> all work. besides the thing blowing wind does not make much real difference it seems.


I liked the stacked cardboard computer cases. Remember those?


60 or 70 years ago.


LoL.

Not only useless but also uncomfortable. My wrists get itchy when looking at those zigzag bevels...


https://roominabox.de/

The Bett 2.0 was one of the most comfortable things I’ve ever slept on. The Grid Bed was useless and fell apart.


Have one for several years. The main problem is cleaning it. Good luck cleaning the dust and spider webs from hundreds of individual holes. But otherwise, it's extremely sturdy and stable.




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