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Trump’s approval rating is still around 40%

https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker



> 40% of the people still approve of everything Trump is doing.

Someone saying to a pollster that they approve of Trump is very different from them saying they approve of everything he is doing.


59% say ICE is too aggressive - meaning that 41% approve

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-59-voters-say...


No it means 41% don’t necessarily think they’re too aggressive.


Isn’t that agreeing with him? HN loves to make excuses for the voters. If killing someone isn’t too aggressive what is? Killing and eating his kids? They think that is fine


Let me be very clear: I think ICE is wildly out of bounds and killing/terrorizing people. I do not support them. I do not support the republican party or Trump. Quite the opposite.

All of that being said: that is how polling works. You are inferring too far beyond the actual question posed. For instance, somebody could think they are acting too aggressively, but completely agree with the final outcome/objective. Or somebody could disagree with the objective, but think that they’re not acting too aggressively because perhaps they’re sympathetic to LEO’s having to make snap judgments in the field (an excuse I do not agree with but many do).

I think the general sentiment that the question tells you something about how people support or don’t support ICE is valid, but the exact number and statement you’re throwing out cannot be assumed and is likely wrong, even if it’s maybe close. And that’s not even getting into how different people will have different ideas of what “too aggressive” even means.

59% think they’re being too aggressive, assuming the polling is decent quality, means you can credibly say 41% do not think ICE is being too aggressive.


Again so it’s not okay they are shooting people. But it’s fine if the outcome is that they are dead?


How on earth are you getting that from what I’m saying?


You said they aren’t okay with the process - just the outcome


When did I ever say that? I’m talking about polling. I said concretely that I am against what ICE/this admin is doing.


“No it means 41% don’t necessarily think they’re too aggressive”

I think “multiple people ending up dead” is a “too aggressive”


I am talking about other people. I am talking about the statements you can make based off the polls. I don’t understand what the objection is here. I personally think ICE is terrible both in their mission and how they conduct it. I am against this.


I am not casting aspersions on you or anyone else I’ve been replying to here. I am saying that people - including Michelle “this isn’t who we are” Obama who excuse the voters who still support this have their heads in the sand.

This is exactly who 40% of the US is.




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