I wonder if people really do use ownCloud on shared hosting, is it just me or does that seem slightly off?
For what it's worth, I quite like PHP. Start off with something like Silex, and you have a nice little language. But, as a contractor I have to deal with people who are afraid of package managers or expections on a regular basis and that is far more grating than anything "a fractual of bad design" can throw at the language.
> I wonder if people really do use ownCloud on shared hosting, is it just me or does that seem slightly off?
Huh? Sharepoint Online (which kind of competes with OwnCloud) is massively popular and is at the heart of Office 365. So, yes, people want that kind of centralised file sharing infrastructure likely for inter-company or inter-group work.
A lot of small teams and small companies will just buy a pre-built (often shared) solution (e.g. email, website, collaboration suite, etc). Since they lack the internal expertise to manage their own equipment or to rent a VPN and "do it themselves."
Uh, that's not really the type of shared hosting I was talking about, that's Saas.
"Shared hosting" is typically referencing you sharing a server with other people and you'd typically have ftp access by default, shell access by request. Typically they don't have a lot of seperation and any user can upload a script that'll become a runaway process or allow remote execution.
I'd be suprised if "teams" were doing this, as soon as you start adding in jails, process seperation, etc, you might as well be selling managed VPS and then it's no longer "shared hosting" in the traditional sense.
VPS != shared hosting. With a VPS, you get to decide what packages are installed (and what OS is installed, for that matter.) With shared hosting, you get a Unix account without administrator access, and have to put up with whatever packages you're given.
The point being that unless you're specifically in the latter situation, you get to decide what language platform to install and how to configure it, so why bother making your choice of language based on that?
See response to sibling, shared resources isn't the same thing as "shared hosting". Pedantic I know, but an important distinction within the industry.
Also important to my point because on a DO server you can install python or ruby, it's only on shared or managed servers where picking PHP because it's ubiquitous is valid idea. Shared hosting is often limited to PHP, SaaS and VPS providers are not.
For what it's worth, I quite like PHP. Start off with something like Silex, and you have a nice little language. But, as a contractor I have to deal with people who are afraid of package managers or expections on a regular basis and that is far more grating than anything "a fractual of bad design" can throw at the language.